[Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?

Richard Threlkeld rjt at softwareinnovation.com
Wed Oct 13 13:41:08 PDT 2004


It is possible to bid as autocrat of an event directly to kingdom without a host group. The kingdom would become the host group. That is relatively rare in Ansteorra, but, for instance, Master Phillip White did that with the Known World Dance Symposium hosted at UTA. This may make the local groups a bit edgy because the manpower for these tend to come mostly from the local area and bypassing the local group may cause scheduling problems, burnout, or feelings that the local work done will not get noticed.
 
My observation has been that direct bids without a supporting group do not generally fair very well. If you get a bid from Elfsea, for instance, you know they have a very good track record and will probably put on a fine event. If you have Master Bob do it directly, he would have to convince the powers that be that he had that kind of track record and they could expect a fine event. It comes down to depth of support. If the Elfsea autocrat comes down with a contagious illness a week before the event and is sick during the event, Elfsea has several seasoned autocrats who could take over. It has trained people to do all the jobs. If Master Bob has a heart attack the week before the event, the event may have to be cancelled.
 
Caelin on Andrede

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From: elfsea-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com at ansteorra.org on behalf of Valentyn Drake
Sent: Wed 10/13/2004 3:26 PM
To: 'Barony of Elfsea'
Subject: RE: [Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?



I think what he's asking is if someone in the barony can submit a bid that is NOT on behalf of the barony; where the barony is not the actual host.  Or am I totally off, Synrik?

 

Valentyn

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Threlkeld [mailto:elfsea-bounces+donvalentyn=jeffturnerfiction.com at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Richard Threlkeld
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:17 PM
To: Barony of Elfsea
Subject: RE: [Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?

 

All event bids must be signed by the Seneschal, but they must be approved by the financial committee of which the Baron and Baroness together are one member. The financial committee approval is obviously because of the possible financial profit/loss. The Seneschal is also a member of the financial committee but has to look at many other issues like the people available to put this on, the proposed site, other events we might like to host, etc. 

 

In service,

Caelin on Andrede

 

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From: elfsea-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com at ansteorra.org on behalf of Synrik
Sent: Wed 10/13/2004 3:00 PM
To: Rixende de Rouen; Barony of Elfsea
Subject: Re: [Elfsea] Kingdom Bids --- Question?

Question:  Is there any other circumstance, other than relying on the
Barony's Financial System (Accounts / Seed Money, etc.), where we (a
Group) would be required to gain the approval of the Baron and Baroness?

Rixende de Rouen wrote:

> Greetings Elfsea!
>
> At business meeting it was decided that the Barony of Elfsea would put
> forth a bid for a Kingdom Level event.

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