[Elfsea] EXTERNAL: Re: Introduction

Wed May 18 07:21:36 PDT 2011

I can see your point.  I try and stay away from the term earn because it
makes it sound like a merit badge and that you are not a peer until you have
that  badge.  I say you are a peer when people see you as a peer, and the
title by that time  is secondary.   I have had numerous Laurels tell me they
see me as a peer, and that is the goal I am satisfied with.  I may
eventually gain the Title, but it is not something I strive for.  But I am
always willing to discuss a point.  I can most oft be found on the fencing
field or in the A&S classes.

-Capten Rhys

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Richard Threlkeld <
rjt at softwareinnovation.com> wrote:

>  I believe the Crown recognizes a person is a peer as does the peerage
> circle. However, I believe you earn the title by working on yourself to
> learn, practice, and become what you believe a peer to be. You have goals
> for yourself in the areas of teaching, mentoring, leadership, artistry, and
> more. To achieve those you learn to think and be a slightly (or in some
> cases more than slightly) different way. And that change may be what people
> see when they say "he is my peer". I'd love to talk with you more about this
> in person. I'm usually found with a camera in my hands when I'm found at
> all.
>
> Caelin on Andrede
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* elfsea-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra.org[elfsea-bounces+rjt=
> softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Dan Baker [
> lordrhys at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:23 PM
> *To:* Barony of Elfsea
> *Subject:* Re: [Elfsea] EXTERNAL: Re: Introduction
>
>  My good Caelin,
>
> Thank you, and I look forward to meeting them both, as well as the Baron
> and Baroness of Steppes.
>
> If I may offer an opinion, and please don't take this as a rebuke, but just
> an opinion and a way of looking at things.  so I start I start this next
> with IMHO.....
>
> One doesn't earn a peerage, be it Laurel, Knight, or Pelican.  The Crown
> can not make a peer.   It is the honor of the Crown to recognize those
> individuals who have made of themselves peers.
>
> Many many years ago I approached my Laurel and requested that he take me as
> an apprentice.  His response was to ask me a question "Why do You want to be
> a Laurel?"  Honestly I was stumped, and I didnt know how to answer that
> question, I just had not thought that far ahead.  So about 6 months later I
> came back with my answer and became his student, and later his apprentice,
> and journeyman.
>
> "I do not want to become a Laurel.  I wish to become what a Laurel is, or
> should be, a teacher, a student, a mentor, a friend, a leader, a servant, as
> well as an artist.  That is what I seek in an apprenticeship.  If in
> learning these things I ever become a Laurel, I will look upon that Great
> Honor as what it truly is, a signpost along the path, not an end goal.  That
> is a path that will take the rest of my life to walk."
>
> That is my promise to Master Charles Oakley.
>
> -Capten Rhys
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Threlkeld, Richard <
> Richard.Threlkeld at xerox.com> wrote:
>
>>  Though he is very accomplished as an artist as is his wife, the Baron
>> and Baroness of Elfsea are not yet Laurels. Ansteorra is a tough group when
>> it comes to earning a peerage.
>>
>>
>>
>> In Service,
>>
>> Caelin on Andrede
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* elfsea-bounces+richard.threlkeld=xerox.com at lists.ansteorra.org[mailto:
>> elfsea-bounces+richard.threlkeld=xerox.com at lists.ansteorra.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Wilkerson, Glen D
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:18 AM
>> *To:* Barony of Elfsea
>> *Subject:* Re: [Elfsea] EXTERNAL: Re: Introduction
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ah, yet another Spider Robinson fan…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* elfsea-bounces+glen.d.wilkerson=lmco.com at lists.ansteorra.org[mailto:
>> elfsea-bounces+glen.d.wilkerson=lmco.com at lists.ansteorra.org] *On Behalf
>> Of *Dan Baker
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:14 AM
>> *To:* Jay Rudin; Barony of Elfsea< br>*Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Elfsea]
>> Introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Did you hear about the Laurel who became King?  He was the artist formerly
>> known as Prince....
>>
>> Sorry I couldn't help myself...
>>
>> Two Laurel Barons? wonderful.  I need a step-Laurel, my Laurel has been
>> not playing for about 4 years, So I am kind of an abandoned apprentice.  I
>> am apprenticed to Master Charles Oakley
>>
>> -Capten Rhys
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Jay Rudin <rudin at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>
>> For all that the Baron of the Steppes is a Laurel, the Baron of Elfsea is
>> probably our most accomplished expert in furniture. You really are moving to
>> a great area.
>>
>> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Baker
>>
>> Sent: May 15, 2011 1:11 PM
>> To: Barony of Elfsea
>> Subject: Re: [Elfsea] Introduction
>>
>> Ahhh Greetings Your Excellency Don Duncan.  Now that I will be living in
>> Steppes, I am interested in putting my skills to use.  I have made numerous
>> thrones, two Baronies., and both sets of Midrealm Travel Thrones are my
>> work.  I will have to consult with you on what types of projects there might
>> be a need for in that area.  Furniture design and construction is what  I am
>> apprenticed for.
>>
>> -Capten Rhys gen y  Arian Lloer
>>
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