ANSTHRLD - Precedence Question

[Amy & Bill Morris]

speaking of court baronies, where do foreign court baronies fall?  In
particular where do those who received a court barony before grants were
given fall?  and where do those who received a court barony without a
grant fall?  

Amanda Lewanski wrote:
> 
> Donald Riney wrote:
> 
> > I believe since they are siting in the place of a Landed noble they would
> > maintain the same precedence as the other landeds. this is of course because
> > the Barony maintains it's precedence and they represent it.
> 
> Actually, upon thinking about it, I think that Obelisk is right and the title of
> Vicar and Vicaress would convey no precedence unless specified. It is not the
> precedence of the Barony which is marching, or being listed, or whatever; it is
> the personal precedence of the individual.
> 
> Which leads to a related question--am I wrong, and *is* it the precedence of the
> Barony, rather than personal precedence, which counts for landeds? Do they march
> in order of founding of the Baronies, or by their date of landedness? If in order
> of Baronial founding, then Darius is probably right.
> 
> However, I get confused when I take this any farther; for example, Vicar and
> Vicaress is a temporary duty, but then, technically, so is being a landed Baron
> or Baroness, so I don't know what bearing that would have on things. Are landed
> folk *always* given a Court Barony upon stepping down? If so, being landed means
> you'll never be below that level of precedence, while being a Vicar would mean
> nothing of the sort. Which may imply absolutely nothing at all relevant to the
> question.
> 
> Oh, well. Further mulling may cause other thoughts to float up from the deeps
> (although my deeps are getting shallower by the day, seems like), but I thought
> I'd throw this thought out for consideration before I forgot it.
> 
> --Alisandre (with my two cents, we have four now, and you know what that'll buy)
> 
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