ANSTHRLD - Branch device change-how to's?

Richard Culver rbculver at hotmail.com
Sun Apr 30 14:06:40 PDT 2000


>Do you mean banned as 'offensive to a significant portion of the 
>population'
>or banned as in 'the stuff an early anglo-saxon would put on a shield is 
>not
>registrable'?

   Perhaps both, but more so the former.  See below.

   I ask for the following reason.  If what your persona would
>put on his or her shield would not be heraldry then you can put it on your
>shield, just make sure that it can't be mistaken for heraldry.  In your 
>case
>I would start by making the center boss and the rim contrasting with the
>brown board (leather or wood).  Add a couple of rivets/bolt heads and/or
>reinforcing bars.  Then add the metal beast shapes or geometrics.  If
>possible, try to make the rest of your armor similarly period.  Don't paint
>the board.  Red or white would be period but might make it look too much
>like a coat of arms.

   I have a center boss dress round (I cannot fight with a center grip due 
to a disqbility.  That whole dropping your shield in battle thing does  not 
sit well with me).  I was planning on getting some metal and making beast 
for that.  However we really do not have enough evidence to say what they 
did or did not put on their shields.  Quite frankly as a gress shield I will 
put what I think I would as a Migration Age Angle.  If I could get a hold of 
a Remo Fiberskyn 3 concert bass drum head, that would look good-just like 
rawhide but made of mylar (no weather problems).

>Most people will love you for doing this.  A few will be outraged,
>especially if you catch them off guard.  BE CAREFUL TO TELL AS MANY PEOPLE
>AS POSSIBLE FIRST.   Consult with heralds experienced in device 
>registration
>to avoid something that looks like a shield.  Tell the fighters that you 
>are
>recreating a period shield, they'll love it.  Contact your local
>authenticity police,

  For early Angle stuff I _am_ the authenticity police.  Finances are the 
only thing from doiung it as well as I wish.  For fun I study Anglian 
dialects and Early English and its connections with the Danish penisula.


>There are a few symbols used in Anglo-Saxon art that are banned because of
>later connections with the Nazis.  To my knowledge none of them were used 
>on
>shields.

  This is exactly the part which chaps me.  We are suppose to be an 
educational organization yet we hide research.  I really hate being a slave 
to the actions of the 12 years of the Arrogant Austrian.  The fylfot, to use 
the Middle English term, was used on weapons, burial urns, and other such 
things.  I think at some point it ended up on a few shields, particularly in 
the heathen era which is in line with my persona.   I would like to use the 
Eolhsecg/*elhaz-algiz rune as well but I am sure its modern association with 
the white supremist group the National Alliance would scrap that too.
   I know I cannot change anything but it is a pet peeve.  I assure you 
other symbols have bad track records yet still are kept around.  I makes it 
really hard to enjoy being period when you have to keep some thing in the 
shadows.  It kind of takes away the magic of Dream for me on a personal 
level.  However I can see why the SCA does not want that kind of press.
   Luckily my persona is very well developed from my research.  Once I get a 
hold a book called "First Steps in Old English", I hope for high persona 
events I can be _really_ convincing.


>I have a good reference on the Anglo-Saxon warrior, recently printed in
>England.  If you would like me to xerox the pages on shields please email 
>me
>at awmorris at flash.net with your mailing address.

  Is that the one put out by Anglo-Saxon books?

Cyniric Cyniwarding, hyrnboda Glaslynes
5th Century Angle not too fond of the Saxons :)

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