ANSTHRLD - Guardian(s) of the Queens Hope

[DonnelShaw at aol.com]

In a message dated 8/10/00 8:31:11 AM Central Daylight Time, 
HERALD at ansteorra.org writes:

<< The proposed device is a tudor rose gules and crossed 
 cup hilt foils either in front of or behing the rose.
 
 My guess is that there are several conflicts for this 
 arrangement. I will need alternate possible badges as 
 well. >>
What if  (now remember I udually reproduce devices not create them)

you put the rose lying on it's side in chief    backgroound  gold

Then under it have the crossed foils under it in the other field.and conter 
change collors from the in chief  part.
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