ANSTHRLD - Fwd: Re: Society Name

Teceangl tierna at agora.rdrop.com
Tue Jul 18 04:40:13 PDT 2000


> There is a submitter in Northkeep who is interested in the following name:
> 
> >Coravinda inghen Kynneth (sp?)
> 
> The submitter says that Coravinda appears on a list of pictish names 
> from the SCA heralds site (author unknown at this time and I haven't 
> checked yet).

Check.  Yeesh.
Coravinda is not anywhere in Tangwystyl's article, and that is the _only_
Pictish names article anywhere on any SCA website.
The closest I found was Cornavia, which is the feminine nominative of a
tribal name.  It is not a personal name, it is a byname showing membership
in a certain tribe.
The article also contains the following paragraph:
   If descent and inheritance are being traced through the mother, it may
   also be valid to use the latter construction with a mother's name. The
   Latin feminine forms of the above would use "neptis" and "filia" --
   although given the complete lack of Pictish feminine names, there
   hardly seems any point in mentioning it.

Thus we have only one valid form of forming a Pictish patronymic for a female,
but there are no recorded female Pictish names.

The article is at 
             http://www.panix.com/~mittle/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/
I found the above information in the section marked "Analyzing and Using the 
Data".

If I come across as snappish, please chalk it up to a certain distaste about
speculation and perpetration of misinformation when the sources for the true
information are readily available.  Working with people who continue to
speculate when the facts are apparent and who dislike being contradicted by
the truth has slightly jaded me and made me predisposed to correct such
behaviour wherever I get the chance.
 
> The inghen is intended to be the "daughter of" gaelic word that I 
> also don't know how to spell off the top of my head.

Which can be found in articles online easily as well.

> And the submitter believes that Kynneth is an older precursor to 
> modern MacKenzie.  The precursor to MacKenzie is most important to 
> her.

Documentation?
 
> Second question: Spelled correctly, put in the correct genitives, 
> etc., does this name appear plausable for registration?

Prove that Pictish and later period Gaelic shared names and maybe it would.
The onus of proof is on the submitter.
 
- Teceangl
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