ANSTHRLD - Conflict Checktmcd

Cahira cahira_of_bonwicke at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 18 22:32:37 PDT 2000


AAAAHHHH!!! You've got to stop giving me choices!! :-)

--- "Timothy A. McDaniel" <tmcd at jump.net> wrote:
> I should also ask: Cahira, is it that you want a
> geometric design
> without complex-outline things, or do you want the
> blazon to have no
> charges?  

Basically, I want something that I can draw by myself
and that I can blazon (or at least memorize the blazon
to :-) ) that uses the 3 colors that I've picked. When
I say that I want no charges, I mean (more
specifically) that I want no charges (like animals)
that are complicated to draw.

> ...unlike most other submitters, you really have
> only two design features possible:
> - the lines of division
> - the tinctures
> and here I was talking about turfing ALL your ideas!

That's ok. If all my ideas are bad, feel free to
comment. :-)

>  I'd quote
> Jar-Jar Binks, but you'd have to commit a
> murder-suicide.

Nah. I probably wouldn't even get the allusion (I'm
ashamed to admit that I've only seen Episode 1 one
time)

> If you had no preferences at all, I'd suggest Or,
> sable, and gules
> ... but given that you do have a preference, I'd
> suggest working with
> them and seeing if something good can come of it.

Thank you. :-)

> - With purpure and sable having low contrast, they
> really ought to be
>   separated and/or in large solid blocks, simply so
> you can tell them
>   apart.

Would having a bend sinister (that is engrailed?) that
is gold with black above it (to the left?) and purple
below it (to the right?) work? That way, the two dark
colors are separated by the light color?

Or...I was browsing on the sca site and on this page:
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/primer/ordinaries.html
I found "a pile inverted." Could I do something like
that with black on one side and purple on the other
and gold in the middle? Or is that illegal?

> I think the most common ones in period were plain,
> indented,
> engrailed, and nebuly, about in that order of
> decreasing frequency.

I'm definitely liking "engrailed."

> One thing done a lot in period and not much in the
> SCA is "vairy"... However, vairy is more
> complex than most
> people care to deal with.  If it's too tiresome to
> make a banner,
> paint your arms, or whatever, there's not a lot of
> point in
> registering a device, after all.

I like "vairy," but how would I work my 3rd color in
there? (I don't want just black and gold...I don't
want to look like an Ansteorran flag, and I don't want
just purple and gold...I've seen that done a lot, it
seems). And I'm not worried about it being
tiresome...as long as I'm the only one who has to draw
it. I don't want to annoy my friends who are artists
every time I need to paint my shield. :-)

> A not uncommon design -- the family was moderately
> prolific.  Pretty
> easy to grasp by looking at it: it's a smaller
> shield with rays coming
> out of it in certain patterns (except the field is
> just horizontal),
> or alternately just a radiating bordure.  Damned
> near impossible to
> blazon completely accurately: at least one period
> heraldic treatise
> says it's the test of a good herald and suggests
> just blazoning it
> "Mortimer".  I can barely think about how to
> conflict-check it.

See, you should never have brought that up because I
think that looks just spiffy. :-) But (thankfully) it
falls under the category of "I can't blazon it...I
don't want it." :-)

It's just getting worse with every post, isn't it? If
the rest of you are tired of this thread, I can kill
it for now and just ask all my questions at the
consultation table at 3 Kings (there will be a
consultation table there, right?). Just let me know.

Cahira

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