ANSTHRLD - "Marshall" name advice
Kathri at aol.com
Wed Apr 18 07:08:25 PDT 2001
In a message dated 4/17/2001 9:13:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
rayasmith at yahoo.com writes:
> I have a client who is interested in registering the
> name "John Marshall Hayden".
> I don't believe there is any problem with the
> periodness of the name, but our concern is whether the
> name "Marshall" might have problems or be disallowed
> as being a title (such as Rex or Duke).
> Any advice?
Go with it, except he may need to modify the spelling.
"Marshall" is an occupational name for a farrier. Per Bardsley sn Marshall p
516 "Like the smith, the marshal was a necessity in every centre of
population. Hence it is found in all counties." Like some other
occupations, it became a high title within royal households, but that didn't
prevent people who were really doing the job from getting tagged with the
epithet-that-became-an-inherited-surname. (For example, the royal family of
Stewart vs all those officials of all those manors.)
Examples of Marshall:
(Bardsley p 516) Johannes Mareschall, 1379. Christopher Marshall and Eliz.
Byrde: Marriage 1572.
(Reaney & Wilson p 300 sn Marshall) Goisfridus Marescal 1084, William
Marescald 1100-30, Henry le Marscal 1238, John Marschal 1296 (don't panic;
being cited in R&W does *not* make one worthy of protection, and the proposed
name is clear anyway) .
And as an extra blessing, "Hayden" is a locative. One of the few
justifications for double surnames in English is the addition of a locative
to another type of surname, and here we have the registerable
occupation-locative combination. (With the extra ummph from the fact that
there could well be several "John Marshall"s so we might *need* to specify
the one from Hayden.)
Examples: Reaney & Wilson p 222 sn Hayden: Thomas de Haiden' 1200, William
de Heydon 1303; Walter Haydon 1327. Bardsley p 368 sn Haydon: Richard de
Haydon or Heydon 1273, Anges de Heydone 1273, Thomas de Heydon 20 Edw I (what
was the 20th year of Edward I's reign? in period, anyway), Philip de Haghdon
I Edw. III, Benjamin Haiden 1586.
In order to get the spelling "Hayden" he could argue that the first syllable
"Hay-" was combined with various spellings of the second syllable, and (so
far) we have one late period example of the second syllable "-den" to combine
I think the name is fairly late period English anyway.
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