ANSTHRLD - Devices--help with Conflict Checks

Timothy A. McDaniel tmcd at
Wed Apr 18 09:43:16 PDT 2001

Cyniric / "Richard Culver" <rbculver at> wrote:
> Or, a compass rose azure, on a chief sable a mullet of four greater
> and lesser points.

A "a mullet of four greater and lesser points" is an SCA-invented
charge, called "a compass star" (or "a Disney star" by some who don't
like it).  Nobody has yet shown attestations of the compass star or
the compass rose in period armory, but the SCA CoA has deemed them to
be SCA-compatible and thus registerable.

The tincture of the mullet has been omitted.  This design cannot be
checked.  The tincture chosen has to be a metal, or something the SCA
deems a metal (an ermined tincture where the background is a metal),
or a neutral tincture which has sufficient contrast.

    Or, a compass rose azure, on a chief sable a compass star

> Gules, on a pall inverted argent, surmounting a shakefork sable
> fimbriated argent, a norse sun cross gules in between three
> spearheads sable shafts to center, a bordure argent.
> Okay... a red background.  a white pall inverted which is on top of
> a black shakefork outlined white.  On the pall is the Norse sun
> cross which red in between the three black spearheads.  All of this
> is in a bordure white.  The pall and shakefork should forn something
> akin to below.
>             |
>           \ | /
>            \|/
>            /|\
>           / | \
>          /     \

We blazon from the field up.

Since the pall is an overall charge, it is treated as being on the
field for purposes of layer counting.  Thus, this does not have four
layers (prohibited) but only three.

    Gules, a shakefork sable fimbriated [argent], overall on a pall
    inverted argent a Norse sun cross gules between three spearheads
    points to center sable, a bordure argent.

With the bordure and the center charges, I think there's a good change
that this would be returned for having too great a resemblance to a
peace sign.  Any other opinions?

Palls were seen in period only in ecclesiastical armory.  Neither
looks like period armory I've seen, though I suppose (having no
knowledge myself) that the Norse may have used geometric designs like
that on their shields.

Daniel de Lincolia
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