[ANSTHRLD] A couple conflict checks

Teceangl tierna at agora.rdrop.com
Fri Jun 7 07:38:46 PDT 2002


> > 1.  Per pale sable and argent a gurges counterchanged.

Skating awfully close to excessive counterchanging, I think.
Also check against roundels and annulets, as a gurges can be rendered as
several annulets nestled, with a roundel in the middle.

> > 2.  Argent a dragon segreant and a tressure sable.  (Might also check an
> > orle)

"a tressure" *is* an orle.  Tressure is the dimunative of orle and tressures
only come in groups in the SCA.

> Came close right off with:
>
> Brion Thornbird ap Rhys|9408W|b|Argent, a dragon segreant sable and in chief three crescents gules, all within a bordure engrailed sable.
>
> But you have CD's for the three crescents gules in chief, the change in peripheral charges and for the complex line of the peripheral. So I guess it was no too close, just very similar.

There's a CD for adding a secondary charge group, the crescents.
But as a complex line is an aspect of type, there's only one other CD for
changing from a bordure engrailed to an orle.
Remember that a peripheral charge is a secondary charge, and always remember
the clause in X.4.e. that classifies complex edges as an aspect of type.
Still clear, just by a slightly different count.

> Cirilo Zmajdrugada|8107W|d|Argent, a dragon segreant to sinister, tail coward, vert, winged, within a bordure sable.
>
> With CD's for orientation and change of tincture of the primary charge

And one for type change of secondary charge from brdure to orle.

> Erich von Drachenholz|9610C|b|Argent, a dragon segreant coward gules within an orle sable.
>
> There is a CD for change of tincture of the Primary Charge, I do not think there is one for change in position of the tail and there is very little difference between and Orle and a tressure. Not sure of precedence on Orles versus Tressures.

An orle is a tressure.  This conflicts.

> Evet Drachenklaue|0108X|d|Argent, a dragon segreant azure within a bordure sable.
>
> There is a CD for change of tincture of the Primary Charge, and I believe there is a CD for the difference between a bordure and a tressure.

Ayup, different type of charge.

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