[ANSTHRLD] Squires, Achievements of Arms, and Ranks (Oh My!)

[Tom Parr]

Unto the good lord Timothy and good Mistress Gunnvor and all other viewers of this fine list:

I see the fact that wearing belts is just a tradition but those who do are very proud of the fact.  I am not a Squire, Protegee, or Apprentence or Student.  I am just a man-at-arms but I wear the belt of black green and white <my squires colors> proudly.  I feel that were we to do away with this system no matter how informal it might be would be a travesty...

just my two shillings,
Lord Seamus O Dubhda


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Timothy Rayburn" <timothy at elfsea.net>
Reply-To: heralds at ansteorra.org
Date:  Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:13:37 -0600

>Greetings to the list and the good Mistress Gunnvor ...
>
>>Since, in the SCA, "squire" is not a rank nor an award, but rather a type of
>>household relationship between one flavor of peers and their students,
>
>Very true, obviously ...
>
>>The color-coded, completely unofficial
>>colored belt scheme is bad enough as is without further ramification.
>
>I certainly concur that for most of the personas wandering about the SCA that the colored belt system means nothing more than what the SCA has come to make it mean.  But I am inclined to ask the following ...
>
>While we have little ability to change things, what would you prefer to see rather than the belt system?
>
>I've heard some ideas before, including no marking ... but for many there is a wish to have a visible symbol, which I can understand because rank or not, there are those who treat the rank of Squire, Apprentice or Protege as a rank.
>
>Timothy of Glastinbury
>Pot-stirrer Extraordinary
>
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