[ANSTHRLD] Conflict Questions

[Blaise de Cormeilles]

On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 12:40:05AM -0800, Teceangl wrote:
> > I have a client who wants:
> > Per pale azure and argent, a terrier and a cat sejant erect respectant within a bordure counterchanged.
>
> Your problem is not conflict, it's X.5.

No, it's not; it is, as the precedent you cite states, XI.3.

> The bordure, being counterchanged, does not create the impression of a
> single piece of armory; it looks like an impalement of two seperate
> devices.
> Here's the Laurel precedent covering this situation:
>
>    [Per pale Or and vert, a bear sable and a lion Or combatant within a
>    bordure embattled counterchanged] The addition of a bordure does not
>    remove the appearance of marshalling, as required in RfS XI.3. Because
>    the bordure is counterchanged the coat is a legitimate impalement of
>    Or, a bear rampant contourny sable within a bordure embattled vert and
>    Vert, a lion rampant within a bordure embattled Or. The embattling
>    does somewhat reduce this appearance, but, as complex bordures were
>    used for cadency on quartered arms, we believe that embattling the
>    bordure is insufficient to remove the appearce of marshalling for
>    impaled arms as well. [Daniel Archer the Bear, 07/00, R-Outlands]

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