[ANSTHRLD] Device Conflict Question ILoI 2003-03

[Tim McDaniel]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Herndon, Darin <DHerndon at bswintl.com> wrote:
> At heart, we need to know if you can get two CDs from a secondary
> charge group or if you can only get one CD.

Of course.  Each of the RfS X.4 rules say that such-and-so is one
clear difference.  Except in two cases, there's nothing that says that
one change precludes another.  (The two exceptions:
- you can't get a CD for arrangement if movement is forced by some
  other change
- any number of changes to a single group of tertiaries is one CD, no
  matter how many or what sorts of changes those are.
)  It's like a menu.  If you buy the burger for $2, it doesn't mean
you're not allowed to buy the fries for $1, unless it says otherwise.

> At question is ILoI 2003-03 item 12.  The device for Fintan O'Quigg.
> "Vert, a chevron between three lanterns Or."
>
> The conflict is:  "Guy d'Aigles - The following device associated with
> this name was registered in May of 1984 (via Atlantia):  Vert, a chevron
> between a mullet of eight points, an Arabic oil lamp enflamed and a
> sword between two swords in chevron Or."  We find one CD for the change
> of type to two-thirds of the secondary charge group.

Surely you mean four-fifths?  And a second CD by X.4.f for change of
number of charges on the field: three lanterns versus five charges
(mullet + oil lamp + three swords).  They're clear.

> If the submitted device had argent lanterns, then can you get a CD
> for change of color and one for change of type?

That would indeed be a third CD.

Daniel de Lincolia
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