[ANSTHRLD] Revised Conflict Check Request

[Jim Trigg]

tmcd at panix.com wrote:

> Considering
>     Per fess sable and Or, on an open book Or a mullet of five greater
>     and five lesser points sable, a demi-sun issuant from base gules.
> versus William Gallowglas's
>     Sable, in chief on a plate a satyr dancing and playing a flute
>     proper, issuant from base a demi-sun Or.
> 
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Jim Trigg <blaise at scadian.net> wrote:
> 
>>On Wed, December 29, 2004 12:39 pm, Brent Ryder said:
> 
>>>As it is, I assume (not having seen the emblazon) it is in the
>>>proper place on the upper half of the per fess field.
>>
>>That is not the proper place for a primary charge unless there is a
>>forced move involved.
> 
> What do you mean, Blaise?  I don't see how, in
>     Per fess Or and argent, in chief a lion gules.
> the lion is in an "improper place" for a primary charge.
> It's certainly a primary charge.  It's certainly an unforced move.
> It's certainly a valid blazon.

Sorry, I was not fully awake when I wrote that.  I was referring to the 
"proper place" of a primary charge as being the center of the shield, 
which is more correctly the "default place".  But what I meant was that 
given a per fess field with a single primary charge, I would not expect 
that primary charge to be in chief unless there were a special reason 
for it.  In this case, the special reason is that there would be 
contrast issues if it were in its default location, which makes this a 
forced move, not (as I pointed out) that it matters.

Blaise
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