[ANSTHRLD] Heraldic Faux Pas

[Rhonda and Stephen Hays]

Charles,

It was nice to meet you at the meeting.  I hope that you didn't take offense 
at my comment.  I have been sort of compiling a list of the most common faux 
pas that I have made along with a few others out there, new and old alike.

There have been some rather interesting designs for heraldic tabards and 
while each of them really looked good from a modern eye, it didn't quite 
capture the medieval spirit of our game.

What I find is that alot of our newcomers are looking around at what our 
oldtimers are doing and assuming that if they do it, it is okay.  That is 
not always in the best heraldic taste.

What was done in period and what we do in the SCA differs on certain points 
and the more I learn about period heraldic practices, the more I realize why 
we simplify some of what was done in period.  Talk about confusing!

I will see you at Three Kings for sure.

medb

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Ó Floinn" <Tons at raf662bravo.com>
To: "Rhonda and Stephen Hays" <housedragonstar at earthlink.net>; "Heralds 
List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: [ANSTHRLD] Heraldic Faux Pas


>I am no longer making the heraldic tabard for my shire.
>
> ? Charles Ó Floinn, ?
> tons at raf662bravo.com
> Herald, Shire of Rosenfeld
> Kilgore, Texas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heralds-bounces+tons=raf662bravo.com at ansteorra.org
> [mailto:heralds-bounces+tons=raf662bravo.com at ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of
> Rhonda and Stephen Hays
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:08 PM
> To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc.
> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Heraldic Faux Pas
>
> Well, there's another one for the top ten heraldic faux pas list...
>
> medb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim McDaniel" <tmcd at panix.com>
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." 
> <heralds at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [ANSTHRLD] Lost Submissions
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Charles Ó Floinn <Tons at raf662bravo.com> wrote:
>> Now on to another question.  I am making a Heralds Tabbard for my
>> Shire.  I have been listening to comments for several months now and
>> believe I need to directly ask one question of this august
>> group. (yes, just one).  The College of Heralds crossed trumpets
>> emblem.  Some have told me it can go on anything a herald wears,
>> others have told me that it only rightfully belongs on a item used
>> by the College specifically.
>
> I would say that the crossed trumpets should only go onto something
> only if it is used for heraldic purposes.
>
> For a tabard for an SCA branch, the best thing is to have the branch's
> arms front, back, and sleeves.
>
> The concept of a "heralds' badge" is out of period, so I like to
> discourage it.  If you want a generic tabard, though, you could indeed
> put the crossed trumpets front, back, and sleeves.
>
> Please do NOT mix and match.  All period heralds' tabards and surcoats
> I've seen have the same design on each part.  And please do not do
> quartering: that would mean that you're the herald of the heir of the
> shire and the College of Arms, and I do *not* want to visualize THAT.
>
> Dankyn "unless I have the video distribution rights" de Linccolne
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
>
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