[ANSTHRLD] New Award Discussion
jpercer at stx.rr.com
Tue Feb 1 20:54:21 PST 2005
I believe that a Conflict would be called on this, and even if it wouldn't,
in my opinion, it would be poor style to have two very different awards
named so close together, but a good thought process nonetheless!
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I am not a herald per see...
But here is my input after looking over the listed activities that are to be
covered with this Award.
I cannot help but notice that there is only a few items that is required in
all of these activities - and one of them is a gauntlet or glove. So as a
name - how about the Sable Gauntlet of Ansteorra?
Would is this be a conflict with the Kings Gauntlet of Ansteorra and/or the
Queens Glove of Ansteorra?
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From: "Etienne de St. Amaranth" <star at ansteorra.org>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:09 PM
Subject: [ANSTHRLD] New Award Discussion
> At the last King's Roundtable two items related to awards were announced.
> First, TRM Ulsted and Cateau have closed the Award of the Optio,
> previously discussed on this list. Second, it is TRM intent to open an
> award in the place of the Optio that is inclusive of all marshallate
> activities (it will effectively absorb the Optio). To be specific, this
> award would be an AoA level award (no orders) much like the Sable Thistle
> or Sable Comet. The charter for the award would specify the area of
> expertise for which the award is being given (ie - a Sable Thistle in
> Period Cooking would equate to a <New Award> in Chivalric Combat
> The areas I have heard specifically mentioned as covered by this award
> would include: Chivalric Combat, Rapier Combat, Archery, Thrown Weapons,
> Siege Engines, and Equestrian Activities (Equestrian is under the
> marshallate). That list and the exact wording is certainly subject to
> change at the discretion of the Crown. But remember that this is not
> specific to one marshallate activity, it is for all of them (and
> theoretically could be given more than once for different areas.
> So, what do I need from this list?
> First off, if you disagree with the Crown's intent or actions, then this
> is not the forum for that discussion. The forum for your opinion is a
> personal letter to the Crown or a quiet conversation if you are granted
> Their ear. This is the Crown's intent and, therefore, my marching orders.
> Second, the Crown is directly soliciting input on what to name (and
> therefore related insignia for) the award. This is the direct opportunity
> of the college to contribute in the naming and creation of an award. If
> you have a logic for how your idea fits into the awards structure of
> Ansteorra, please explain it; you do not have to be right but you may
> generate discussion for others with your train of thought. If you can tie
> your suggestion to historical awards or orders or period practice, then
> include your documentation.
> His Majesty expressed some interest in maintaining the AoA level format of
> a "Sable <item>" to remain consistent with the Sable Comet, Sable Crane,
> and Sable Thistle. If you have a really good idea, the "Sable" part may
> not be a concrete requirement but at this point it is desirable. If you
> have suggestions on an award name, please email myself and the Zodiacus
> Herald (star at ansteorra.org & zodiacus at ansteorra.org) and include your
> insignia suggestion if you have one and it is not immediately evident. We
> will be collecting the recommendations. If you want to post a suggestion
> to the list because you want commentary (and maybe a conflict check),
> please do so but copy us as well. Zodiacus and I will review and collate
> suggestions and bring them to the Crown for a decision.
> Some people have already emailed me ideas, or shared them verbally at
> Roundtable or over dinner. Please add to the ideas for this new award.
> Right now, consider this a brainstorming period. We'll focus more after
> taking ideas to the Crown.
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