[ANSTHRLD] Items that were registered :) and returned :(

Paul E. Kiefer, Jr. rapierman at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 24 18:11:14 PST 2005


--- tmcd at panix.com wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Doug Bell <debell1 at txcyber.com> wrote:
> > [Malcolm wrote:]
> > > Per saltire sable and vert, five cresents argent (2-1-2)
> 
> Per saltire sable and vert, in saltire five crescents argent.
> 
> > I believe these are the conflicts you requested.  Get Daniel to
> > double check them.  I have been around too many Vikings lately.
> > They count items as 1, 2, 3, ... many.
> >
> > Cassandra Cernakova May of 1985 (via the West):
> > Purpure, six crescents in annulo argent.
> 
> 1 CD for the field.  Is there not the second CD for arrangement,
> since
> five crescents could also be in annulo?  Consider this example from
> RfS X.4.g:
> 
>     Changes that are made on their own, like changing from "three
>     mullets in fess" to "three mullets in pale", or from "six
> mullets"
>     on an uncharged field to "five mullets in cross", are clear
>     differences.
> 
> That last could have been viewed as starting with
> 
> * * *
>  * *
>   *
> 
> removing one star of six for no CD
> 
>   * *
>  * *
>   *
> 
> and moving one star of five for no CD
> 
>   *
>  ***
>   *
> 
> yet a CD for arrangement is nonetheless granted by the example.
> (I never paid attention to those example.  Must do so.)

I confirm that statement.

> > Cáelán mac Meic Craith January of 1997 (via Caid):
> > Quarterly vert and sable, four crescents argent.
> 
> 1 CD for the field.  For charge numbering, four doesn't differ from
> five (RfS X.4.f), and a change of arrangement gets no CD if it's
> forced by another change (RfS X.4.g), so I see no CD for plopping one
> new crescent down plumb center, so I see a conflict.

I confirm that as well.

> > Ramon de la Vega February of 2000 (via An Tir):
> > Per saltire vert and sable, four crescents conjoined in cross
> points
> > inward argent.
> 
> I see 1 CD for the field (RfS X.4.a), and one for changing the
> orientation of every charge in the group (RfS X.4.h).

For flipping the colors of the field?  >search-search-search<  Oh,
you're right.  Clear, then.

Lord Johann Kiefer Haydon (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
Orbis (and tax man).


		
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