[ANSTHRLD] Items that were registered :) and returned :(
Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.
rapierman at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 24 18:11:14 PST 2005
--- tmcd at panix.com wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Doug Bell <debell1 at txcyber.com> wrote:
> > [Malcolm wrote:]
> > > Per saltire sable and vert, five cresents argent (2-1-2)
>
> Per saltire sable and vert, in saltire five crescents argent.
>
> > I believe these are the conflicts you requested. Get Daniel to
> > double check them. I have been around too many Vikings lately.
> > They count items as 1, 2, 3, ... many.
> >
> > Cassandra Cernakova May of 1985 (via the West):
> > Purpure, six crescents in annulo argent.
>
> 1 CD for the field. Is there not the second CD for arrangement,
> since
> five crescents could also be in annulo? Consider this example from
> RfS X.4.g:
>
> Changes that are made on their own, like changing from "three
> mullets in fess" to "three mullets in pale", or from "six
> mullets"
> on an uncharged field to "five mullets in cross", are clear
> differences.
>
> That last could have been viewed as starting with
>
> * * *
> * *
> *
>
> removing one star of six for no CD
>
> * *
> * *
> *
>
> and moving one star of five for no CD
>
> *
> ***
> *
>
> yet a CD for arrangement is nonetheless granted by the example.
> (I never paid attention to those example. Must do so.)
I confirm that statement.
> > Cáelán mac Meic Craith January of 1997 (via Caid):
> > Quarterly vert and sable, four crescents argent.
>
> 1 CD for the field. For charge numbering, four doesn't differ from
> five (RfS X.4.f), and a change of arrangement gets no CD if it's
> forced by another change (RfS X.4.g), so I see no CD for plopping one
> new crescent down plumb center, so I see a conflict.
I confirm that as well.
> > Ramon de la Vega February of 2000 (via An Tir):
> > Per saltire vert and sable, four crescents conjoined in cross
> points
> > inward argent.
>
> I see 1 CD for the field (RfS X.4.a), and one for changing the
> orientation of every charge in the group (RfS X.4.h).
For flipping the colors of the field? >search-search-search< Oh,
you're right. Clear, then.
Lord Johann Kiefer Haydon (Paul E. Kiefer, Jr.)
Orbis (and tax man).
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