[ANSTHRLD] Question on Name submission...

Mistress Bronwen mistressbronwen at solhaven.com
Tue Nov 8 12:47:17 PST 2005

Googling doesn't help me find this--- too many hits, and wearing an 
eye-patch at the moment isn't helping. ;-).  Got a URL?


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Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Question on Name submission...

> On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Hedwig von Luneborg <lochherald at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I did find two people in the OP with that last name. However, that
>> doesn't mean that last name is registered...just that they are using
>> it and have won an award or two.
> Looking in the Roll of Precedence is not that useful in such cases,
> for exactly the reason you adduce.
> Looking in the on-line Armorial under <http://sca.org/heraldry/> is
> somewhat more useful, because it lists only registered names: it lists
> the LoARs that registered them.  However, name knowledge and name
> registration standards have been increasing over time, so a lot old
> names would be unregisterable now.  Also, sometimes name elements are
> registered under the Legal Name allowance, or they are "grandfathered"
> due to an older registration by the person or by a relative.  Also, it
> doesn't show returns, so if a name element is no longer registerable,
> you won't see it.
> What you can do is Google for "Herveus": his main page has a search
> form for the Laurel LoARs.  You can then conveniently look at each
> instance of the word or name element in question, and thereby see the
> acceptances and the returns.  If you're lucky, you can find a specific
> Laurel precedent.  It takes you straight to each decision, so you can
> see the decision in full and in context, including "The given name is
> the submitter's legal first name." and such.
> For such a very famous name as "Medici", I would say that absence of
> evidence is actually fairly conclusive that it's OK.  But I would
> still add to that evidence of non-famous Medicis, as I tried to
> indicate in my message of a fwe minutes ago.
> Daniel Lindonium
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