[ANSTHRLD] Definitions of ....

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Fri Oct 28 13:15:49 PDT 2005


On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Deborah Sweet <dssweet at okstate.edu> wrote:
> >> Stocks
> >Could be stocks like for imprisonment, or could be a tree-trunk.
>
> Per pale Or and argent, a chevron azure between three stocks couped
> sable all within a bordure azure. Stephan Blakstok - device - 1995
>
> So I'm guessing tree-trunks.

Hmmm.  Checking the Pic Dic: STUMP points to TREE, and TREE includes

    A "stump" or "stock" is the bottom part of the tree, left after
    the tree has been felled; its top edge is usually couped, but is
    sometimes found "snagged", with the rough top surface tilted to
    the viewer.  A "trunk" is a somewhat longer form of stump.

Huh.  One time when assuming the most sexual meaning in the SCA was
incorrect.  Sorry.

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> Gules, a monk's hood Or. William Worm - device - 2001
> I'm vaguely remembering article of clothing, but I could be wrong.

Having the exact month of the LoAR is a kindness, because LoARs and
LoIs are filed by month.  August 2001.

The raw SCA Armorial lists it under the category
"CLOTHING-HAT:1:or:spa".  The LoAR registration has:

    William Worm. Device. Gules, a monk's hood Or.

        Possible conflicts were called against Catherine the Merry,
        Azure, a fool's cap Or, and Amata Quentin Motzhart, Gules, a
        jester's cap lozengy argent and sable.  In both cases, a
        necessary CD must come from the type of the hat.  There is a
        CD between a monk's hood, and either a jester's/fool's hat or
        a jester's hood.  Both these latter charges, according to the
        Pictorial Dictionary, have tall padded pointed horns ending
        with bells and cannot be visually confused with the monk's
        hood.

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> > Zule
>
> Chess-rook.

No.

    Anas ibn Haroun Abd al-Zaki.  Badge.  [Fieldless] A zule sable.

          A possible conflict was called against Salaamallah the
          Corpulent (SCA), Papellonny Or and gules, a chess-rook
          sable.  Several modern heraldists equated the two
          charges. However, according to the PicDic the English
          confusion between zule and chess rook can't be period: the
          charge, originally Dutch, was introduced into England during
          the reign of William of Orange (1689-1702).  The name is
          from Dutch zuil `column'.  While it is not entirely certain
          that the charge was originally intended to represent a
          column, there appears to be no doubt that it wasn't intended
          to represent a chess rook.  Given that in period they were
          not considered the same charge, and there is no real visual
          similarity, there is a CD between the two.

Confirmed August 1999 (Endless Hills, Barony of, AEthelmearc
acceptances).

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>>> Mistral
>>Some kind of weird depiction of wind.

Hardly "weird".  It's a standard heraldic depiction of a wind.

> I had been thinking it might have been a bird because it was
> "contourny".

Huh?  Anything with an orientation can be contourny, though it tends
in the SCA to be used more with animate charges.

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