[ANSTHRLD] Device check

[francis.schalles at ttuhsc.edu]

Then Vert, per fess gules, charged with a fleur-de-lys Or would not
violate the rules. Right?

Troye

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From: heralds-bounces+francis.schalles=ttuhsc.edu at ansteorra.org
[mailto:heralds-bounces+francis.schalles=ttuhsc.edu at ansteorra.org] On Behalf
Of Mistress Bronwen
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,Inc.
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Device check

"Per fess" is a field division, and can have two colors. "A fess" is an 
ordinary, and cannot generally be placed upon a field with which it has 
low contrast.
~

Bronwen

"Quod Excogitem Sum"..."I Am What I Can Imagine"
[Per pale sable and argent, an antelope statant and in chief a pearled 
coronet counterchanged]

~
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <francis.schalles at ttuhsc.edu>
To: <heralds at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:52 PM
Subject: RE: [ANSTHRLD] Device check


>I was under the impression that you could have a field division, a 
>fess,
> with two colors. I understand the basic rules, of tincture and metals 
> used
> for contrast. Guess I need to read the rules again. So any pale, pall, 
> bend
> chevron, etc must be the opposite (metal/tincture) of the field?
>
> Troye
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heralds-bounces+francis.schalles=ttuhsc.edu at ansteorra.org
> [mailto:heralds-bounces+francis.schalles=ttuhsc.edu at ansteorra.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Alden Drake
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 3:46 PM
> To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Device check
>
> --- "Schalles, Francis" <francis.schalles at ttuhsc.edu> wrote:
>> Again greetings,
>> Vert, a fess gules charged with a fleu-de-lys Or.
>> Too simple?
>>
>> Troye
>> Western Cross Herald
>>
>
> Also blazoned: Vert, on a fess gules a fleur-de-lys Or.
>
> This design has a color-on-color problem.  The Rule of Tincture, or 
> what
> you'll commonly hear as
> color-on-color or metal-on-metal, is used in the SCA to ensure 
> sufficient
> contrast of charges on
> the field of a device.  Basic colors consist of gules (red), vert 
> (green),
> sable (black), azure
> (blue), and purpure (purple).  Basic metals consist of Or (yellow) and
> argent (white).  Furs and
> "proper" tinctures vary depending on the major tincture used and I'll 
> be
> willing to discuss them
> separately if desired.
>
> Poor contrast is obtained from putting a charge of a color on a field 
> of a
> color (ie a fess gules
> on a vert field).  The same would apply to a metal charge on a metal 
> field
> (ie a fess Or on an
> argent field).
>
> The same would apply to a charge atop another charge - in this case, 
> the
> fleur-de-lys Or on the
> fess gules.  This shows good contrast.  A fleur-de-lys vert on a fess 
> gules
> would not.
>
> My recommendation would be to change the vert field to either Or or 
> argent.
> If you want the vert
> field, you'll need to change the fess tincture to a metal, and 
> therefore
> change the fleur tincture
> to a color.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> YIS,
> Alden Drake
>
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