[ANSTHRLD] A question on the closing of orders and the changing of their names

Luciana Caterina di Borgese dolce.luce at gmail.com
Tue Nov 7 12:40:55 PST 2006


Yes it does make sense, and thank you for taking the time to explain.

Luciana


On 11/7/06, Hillary Greenslade <hillaryrg at yahoo.com> wrote:


Well, while everyone has redirected your question to the Calontir Heralds
> list, I will say that
> it's a good question and one that has recently come up with the Ansteorran
> awards; so I'll share
> with you what was decided by Star Principal for Ansteorra for this very
> same issue.
> Calontir rules may differ.
>
> Ansteorra has two awards that were recently closed and replaced with a new
> award:
> Optio ---> became ---> Sable Talon (for Chivalric Combat)
> Arcus Majoris ---> became ---> Arc d'Or
>
> Our Golden Scroll scribe deputy was requested to replace a scroll that had
> been destroyed for the
> older award.  A question was raised 'should the old award be replaced or
> the new one?'.  Star
> Principal stated that the older award was the one to be replaced, as it
> WAS the award given at
> that time and date, and the new award did not yet exist at that time; so
> it would be inappropriate
> to give the new award.
>
> Therefore, while Ansteorran scribes no longer create or paint the older
> awards, we do retain the
> old masters and all unpainted/painted copies in our archives and some with
> Golden Scroll in order
> for them to be used for disaster replacements - which has happened
> already.
>
> Aside - I believe when the older awards were closed, that the Crown stated
> that all holders of the
> old awards could congregate, meet, discuss issues with the holders of the
> new award, as if they
> were one in the same.  However, the OP will still retain the old award
> abbreviation as the one
> presented and the OP is not to translate the old award to the new award.
>
> Hope that helps in deciding the 'Trilliam Argentum' vs 'Golden Swan'
> concern.
> Hillary Greenslade, Star Signet Ansteorra
>
>
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