[ANSTHRLD] If Whole when Part? A CD Question

kevinkeary at aol.com kevinkeary at aol.com
Wed Dec 5 13:47:41 PST 2007

I dunno, I see the first as being true only if the second doesn't apply.

A minotaur's head conflicts with a bull's head.

A griffin's head conflicts with an eagles head.

Granted, a dragon's jambe is SLIGHTLY different from an eagle's, but not that much.

I wouldn't expect a CD between a unicorn's jambe and EITHER a horse's OR a goat's, but I might contest the matter between the latter two. I'd lose, but...

It's much like the fact that you can't blazon ordinaries differently to get around conflict.
Per fess sable and gules a fess argent is the same as argent a chief sable and a base gules.

I think I read your note wrong. It's the FIRST statement you take issue with. I agree with you then.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc. <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:28 am
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] If Whole when Part? A CD Question

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Britt <tierna.britt at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's been codified for years that if two types of critter are
> different types by X.4.e., so are their parts


> ...we grant difference between a dragon and an eagle -- but none
> between a dragon's foot and an eagle's foot. (Laeghaire O Laverty,
> August, 1993, pg. 5)
> We give no difference between an eagle's jamb and a dragon's jamb.
> ... (Barony of One Thousand Eyes, 4/98 p. 19)

Would you please address the contradiction here?  (The whole charges
have X.2 difference, but that's stronger than and subsumes X.4.e)
In particular, can you explain how you could find difference in parts
that look nearly identical, when they are purported to come from
different types of creatures?

Danihel Lindum
Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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