[ANSTHRLD] OP question - Court Baronies and Baronies in fief

[Sir Morgan Buchanan]

Allow me to play the devil's advocate against your argument.

We're going to use 2 example couples who don't really exist.  Neither of 
these people carry patents of arms nor were they ennobled prior to their 
elevation.

Bob is made Baron of Summerland on 1/1/2000.  Doug is made Baron of 
Autumnland on 1/1/2002.

Doug steps down as Baron on 1/1/2005.  Bob steps down as Baron on 1/1/2007.

Bob was "ennobled" 2 years before Doug.  He served as Baron longer.  He 
stepped down after.  But under the model of dating a CB to the date the CB 
was conferred (virtually alway the day they step down) Doug would 
out-precedence Bob.

To my way of thinking, this makes absolutely zero sense.

The only argument I can see is that the conferance isn't automatic.  With 
the precious few times we've had someone step down as B&B and they weren't 
conferred CBs, had these people already added supporters to their 
achievement?  If so, were these supporters stripped?

These are just my thoughts.  I'd love to be edified by those more 
experienced, and I thank you for your time.

Morgan

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>
> I'm no scribe; an experienced long-termer (Serena, maybe?) might be
> able to say for sure.  But as an outsider, In My insufficiently Humble
> Opinion, I think that putting anything but the date of the actual
> court action would be a Wrong Thing.  (I wonder whether it would fit
> period models to have the text amended to add "with precedence dating
> to <date>"?)
>
> Danel de Linccolne