[ANSTHRLD] Looking for help on badge conflict
Tim McDaniel
tmcd at panix.com
Tue Jun 5 14:32:16 PDT 2007
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, TinyGypsyLady <tinygypsylady at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Fieldless, On a cinquifoil gules, a shakefork argent.
As noted in the blazons that you quote, the SCA does "(Fieldless)".
Also "cinquefoil".
(Fieldless) On a cinquefoil gules, a shakefork argent.
From Francois's armory precedents,
<http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/precedents/francois/wreath.html#FOIL>,
There is no difference given between a rose and a cinquefoil by
long-standing precedent, as noted in the LoAR of August 2001,
which referred to the LoARs of September 2000 and November 1990.
So the proposal is equivalent to
(Fieldless) On a rose gules, a shakefork argent.
The College of Arms Glossary of Terms at
<http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:m6cgAOWILn0J:www.sca.org/heraldry/coagloss.html>
Table 2, Restricted Charges, says that the only instaboing roses are
the crowned rose, the rose en soleil, and the Tudor rose, so it has
dodged that bullet.
> Here are the possible conflicts...
As an exercise, it might be good for you to state why you think each
one is a possible conflict, and refer to Rules for Submission part X
(<http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/rfs.html#10>) to see.
In particular, why doesn't the proposal conflict with the Lancastrian
rose,
(Fieldless) A rose gules.
?
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Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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