[ANSTHRLD] more name info
Jennifer Smith
jds at randomgang.com
Thu Mar 29 11:17:06 PDT 2007
> So, I went back through the ICC to see why Rhiannon's name had been
> returned. I am truly confused now because the weirdness
> table says that
> Welsh and Scots are 1 weirdness but Magnus' comment was this:
>
> [Name] The Scots part of the name is well done. Rhiannon is
> SCA compatible
> which gives one weirdness. Rhiannon can be considered Welsh
> or English. Then
> either Anton Cwith August 2001 LoAR or Katrina Rosehearty
> September 2001
> LoAR will give it a second weirdness for mixing Scots and
> Welsh or English.
> So the name gets returned and the device gets returned for no name.
The name that was returned was <Rhiannon nein Bryan vic Lachlan>. The given
name <Rhiannon> was ruled an SCA compatible Welsh name; using an SCA
compatible name (instead of one actually documentation to humans in period)
is in itself a step from period practice (aka a weirdness).
The byname <nein Bryan vic Lachlan> is entirely Scots. Mixing Welsh (or
English) with Scots is considered a step from period practice (a weirdness),
and that's how the count got to '2'.
> This is the same precedence I noted as to make it actually
> work. I admit
> the Gaelic/Scots/Irish name stuff boggles my mind. So, I
> really need some
> help here...If she drops the middle name will it clear the
> second weirdness
> or no?
Not her original submission, since <vic Lachlan> is still Scots. If she's
changing the langauge of the byname in some way, then that may clear the
mixed-language weirdness.
-Emma
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