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Alessandra Leoncini. Name and device. Per chevron embattled argent and
gules, two sheaves of arrows gules and a lion's head cabossed Or.
Ascelyn of Glentewrde. Name and device. Per bend sinister gules and Or, a
unicorn argent and a rose gules.
Catalina Isabel de Silva. Name.
Christopher Summerset. Name.
Originally submitted as Christopher Summerset, the name was changed at
kingdom to Christopher Sumerset because no documentation was found to
support a spelling of the byname with two ms. Wreath notes several gray area
forms with the double-m from ancestry.com "Parish and Probate Records." The
records in question do not appear to be normalized, and so are appropriate
for use in this case. We have changed the name back to the originally
Eilína ingen Ascaill. Name.
Submitted as Eilína ingen Ascaidh, no documentation was given and none
found to suggest that Ascaidh was a period form for the patronymic. The
documentation, MacLysaght The Surnames of Ireland, s.n. Caskey, suggests
that it is a form of the Norse name Askell. Reaney and Wilson, A Dictionary
of English Surnames, s.n. MacCaskey, suggest that Ascaidh is a Gaelic
diminutive of Askell. However, we have found no examples of such a
diminutive in Irish annals, strongly suggesting that the Gaelic form in
MacLysaght is modern. The Annals of Ulster have the name Ascall in 1172; the
orthography of this set of annals is Middle Irish, which is consistent with
form of the patronymic particle used in this name. We have changed the name
to Eilína ingen Ascaill in order to register it.
This name mixes Old Norse and Gaelic; this is one step from period
practice. We have found no forms of the name Eilína or similar sounding
names in Middle Irish. However, if the submitter is interested in a fully
Old Norse form of this name, we suggest Eilína Áskels dóttir. We note that a
fully Old Norse name would be the appropriate form for a Norse woman living
in Viking Dublin or Wexford.
Elisabeth Pendarvis. Name and device. Gules, a chevron inverted sable
fimbriated between three round buckles one and two argent.
Elspeth de Stervlen. Name.
Geoffrey Tailor. Device. Or, on a bend between six anchors vert in dexter
chief a fish Or.
Gerhart Wolfgang der Rote. Name.
Jaquelinne Marguerite de la Ryver. Name.
The submitter requested authenticity for 13th-14th C but accepted minor
changes only. While the submitted name is registerable, there are two issues
with its potential authenticity. First, the given names Jaquelinne and
Marguerite are French while the byname is Anglo-Norman or English. The
spelling Ryver is well attested in England, but, so far, we have found no
examples in France. Second, double given names are rare in France until the
end of the 16th C; we have no examples of this practice during the 13th-14th
C. For an authentic name for this period, we suggest dropping one of the
given names and substituting an attested French form for the byname. While
we have been unable to find a form of the byname in the 13th-14th C,
Aryanhwy merch Catmael, "French Names from Paris, 1421, 1423, & 1438",
(http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french/paris1423.html), shows the
spelling de la Riviere in 1421. Jaquelinne de la Riviere or Marguerite de la
Riviere are both fine late 14th-early 15th C French names. We would change
the name to one of these forms, but the submitter will not accept major
changes such as dropping a name element or changing the language of an
Lennán mac Neill. Name and device. Vert, three tridents argent.
Submitted as Leannán MacNeil, no documentation was submitted and none
found to suggest that the Early Modern Irish name Leannán was used in period
as a given name. Ó Corrain and Maguire, Irish Names, s.n. Lennán, date the
Middle Irish form to the beginning of the 10th C, but provide no later
dates. We have been unable to find this name in the Irish annals after 1200
except as a true surname, which suggest that it fell out of use as a given
name before this period. Therefore, the given name is only registerable in
its Middle Irish form, Lennán. However, there is a more than 300 year gap
between the 915 date for the given name and the 1329 date for the byname;
combined with the fact that the name mixes Gaelic and English, such a change
would render the name unregisterable. Fortunately, the submitter will accept
all changes such as changing the language of an element. Mari Elspeth nic
Bryan, "Index to Names in Irish Annals", shows the given name Niall in 971
and 978 in Middle Irish contexts. The appropriate patronymic form would be
mac Neill. We have changed the name to Lennán mac_Neill, a fully 10th C
Irish form, in order to register it.
Please advise the submitter to draw the tridents thicker.
Miguel Sebastian da Oporto. Badge. (Fieldless) In pale a phoenix gules,
issuant from a goblet Or.
Roulant Marat. Name and device. Per bend Or and sable, a tower gules and a
tree blasted argent.
Submitted as Roulant fitz Marat, there was some question whether the
surname Marat was derived from a personal name. Dauzat and Rostaing,
Dictionnaire Etymologique des Noms de Lieux de la France s.n. Marat, says
that the name is a variant of Marana. They derive the name Marana from the
given name Marus with an added suffix. However, while Marat is a modern day
placename derived from this name, there is no evidence to suggest that
Marat, as opposed to Marus, was a given name in period. Because Marat does
not appear to be a given name, using it with the Anglo-Norman modifier fitz
"son" is incorrect. We have changed the name to Roulant_Marat in order to
Sean Cannan. Device. Or, on a bend sinister between two flames gules, a
Wolfger von Eisenstadt. Name and device. Or, a wolf rampant azure, on a
chief sable three crosses formy Or.
Xene Theriane. Alternate name Ximena Grifón de Mendoça.
Ana Maria de Albion. Name.
This item was withdrawn by the submitter.
Constance Elizabeth Campbell. Name.
This submissions was withdrawn by the submitter; she contacted
Gwen verch Cynwrig de Ynys Mon. Name.
No documentation was submitted and none found to suggest that the
placename Ynys Mon is found in period, or that it follows patterns found in
Welsh placenames. Barring such documentation, this byname is not
registerable. We would drop the problem element, but the submitter will not
accept major changes. Therefore, we are forced to return this name.
Kenzing von Morgarten. Name change from Morgund McKenzie.
No documentation was submitted and none found to suggest that Kenzing
was a given name in period. The documentation states that this is a
descriptive byname, and the name example, Kraft Kenzing von Derendingen,
clearly shows it being used in this way. RfS III.2.a "Personal Names states
that a personal name must contain a given name and at least one byname.
Barring documentation for Kenzing as a given name, the name as submitted is
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