[ANSTHRLD] Suggestions needed

Tim McDaniel tmcd at panix.com
Fri Nov 9 09:22:50 PST 2007


To expand on a previous note, the glossary at the excellent Flags Of
The World site at <http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/faq.html> says

     ensign. A flag for use by ships at sea. Nations may have civil,
     state, and war ensigns.

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Jay Rudin <rudin at ev1.net> wrote:
> ... the equivalent of a flag.  Any Oklahoman can fly the flags of
> Oklahoma and the USA.  They aren't arms and don't indicate rulership
> of the state or country.

As a tangent: that's not necessarily true in other countries.  Many
countries make a distinction between the civil ensign, for use by the
populace, versus government and military flags.  For example, in Spain
the government flag (per article 2 of the constituion) bears the coat
of arms when used on government property.  The flag used by the
populace may or may not include the coat of arms.

The US and its states have (so far as I know) its state flag, war
flag, and civil flag identical.  (With a few edge cases, like the
naval ensign flown from the jackstaff of a US navy ship when moored or
at anchor.)

A historical case from North America: you know the "Confederate flag"
with a red background, blue saltire fimbriated in white, white stars
on the saltire?  That was the Confederate ensign (naval jack and used
by some troops in the field), never the Confederate national flags
(though two of them used the naval jack on a canton).
<http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-csa.html>

Danielis de Lindo
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Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com



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