[ANSTHRLD] [Fwd: Heraldry announcement for Commentary

Kimberly Langhans sarapenrose at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 10 12:35:33 PDT 2008

I was talking specifically about the bestowed peerages - I've seen lots of crowns, but never a pelican or knight's chain.

As a Laurel, I'd never add a laurel wreath to my own device, even if I were allowed to, because it's association with group status is just too strong for me personally to get past.


--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Darin Herndon <darin.herndon at chk.com> wrote:

> From: Darin Herndon <darin.herndon at chk.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] [Fwd:  Heraldry announcement for Commentary
> To: "'Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,  Inc.'" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 2:22 PM
> Sara wrote:
> > (does anyone use them, BTW? I've never seen anyone
> with a pelican or
> > knight's chain as part of their device)
> It has been many years ago but I did a badge consult for an
> out of kingdom duke who ended up using a ducal coronet like
> a collar around an animal's neck.  I've never
> personally consulted on a use of the Pelican or a
> knight's chain or belt.  I would have to agree with
> Daniel that crowns and coronets are far more common. 
> Though, if the rule changed, we might see that Laurels as a
> group want to do this more than the members of the other
> orders.
> Etienne


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