[ANSTHRLD] [Fwd: Heraldry announcement for Commentary

kevinkeary at aol.com kevinkeary at aol.com
Thu Jul 10 14:02:59 PDT 2008

Items 1 and 2 in my suggestion were to allay fears we would be stepping 
on toes we had no intention of annoying.

Item 4 was in support of Mistress Sara's statements. I agree with her 
arguments and feelings about the immediate identification of a branch's 
arms and the inherent worth of Society culture and precedent. For all 
that I'm annoyed at the net result in my own barony's arms of this 
requirement and the strict adherence to Laurel precedent in applying 
the Rule of Tinctures to overall charges.

My apologies, I assumed those things would be understood.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
To: Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc. 
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Sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] [Fwd: Heraldry announcement for Commentary

Leaving aside the merits of the original proposals ... 
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, kevinkeary at aol.com <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org> 
> So, what say we start a petition drive to 
> 1) grandfather existing arms 
That is beyond all question. For decades, Corpora has grandfathered 
existing arms. See <http://sca.org/docs/govdocs.pdf>. Corpora, page 
16, Corpora VI.C.3.b: 
  Any item once registered shall remain registered unless the owner 
  requests its release, and shall be accepted in the Society for the 
  person for whom it was registered without regard to changes in the=C
  rules and standards applied to future submissions, or to the 
  membership status of the owner. 
> 2) continue to allow crowns/coronets in the arms of nobility/royalty 
That has not been questioned at this time, or indeed for years. 
(The last change was to allow coronets for landless baron/esses. 
Previously, it had been reserved to principalities, kingdoms, and the 
ranks of duke/duchess, earl/countess, viscount/ess. I think that was 
in the late 1990s.) 
> 4) continue both the reservation and requirement of the laurel 
> wreath in territorial arms. 
Please give your reasons. 
Denyel de Lyncoln 
-- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com 
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