[ANSTHRLD] badge question

[Star Principal Herald]

That's right...I knew there was something like that written.  Thanks for 
pulling it up for me!

Alden

Jennifer Smith wrote:
> Alden wrote:
>   
>> Out of curiosity, with the badge form being square now, would 
>> "Vert, a 
>> cross argent" conflict with "[Fieldless] On a pomme a cross 
>> argent", or 
>> "[Fieldless] On a billet vert a cross argent"?
>>     
>
> No. For two reasons: the first is that a fielded badge can be displayed as
> any shape, be that round, square, rectangular, diamond, etc etc, while the
> two proposed fieldless badges would be constrained by their primary charge
> (round for the pomme, rectangular for the billet). The second reason is that
> the two proposed fieldless badges can't be registered under current
> precedent, as those shapes are valid shapes of armorial display:
>
>   
> We do not register fieldless badges which appear to be independent forms of
> armorial display. Charges such as lozenges, billets, and roundels are all
> both standard heraldic charges and "shield shapes" for armorial display. ...
>
> Therefore, a "shield shape" which is also a standard heraldic charge will be
> acceptable as a fieldless badge in a plain tincture, as long as the tincture
> is not one of the plain tinctures that is protected armory in the SCA. This
> explicitly overturns the precedent "We do not normally register fieldless
> badges consisting only of forms of armorial display, such as roundels,
> lozenges and delfs in plain tinctures, since in use the shape does not
> appear to be a charge, but rather the field itself" (LoAR January 1998).
>
> Note that this does not change our long-standing policy about such "shield
> shape" charges used in fieldless badges if the tincture is not plain (thus,
> divided or with a field treatment), or if the charge is itself charged. Such
> armory will continue to be returned for the appearance of an independent
> form of armorial display.[Solveig Throndardottir, 04/02, A-Æthelmearc]
>   
>
> -Emma
>
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