[ANSTHRLD] Use of Society badges by lower-level officers

[Bob Wade]

The discussion you're probably thinking of was on the Ansteorra list.  It centered on a discussion of whether or not a piece of sable trim with a display swords crossed in saltire Or was presumtious and/or misidentification as a marshal.
 
No one noted trim is a semy display.  I see 1 CD for change to number of the primary charges ; )
 
Tostig

--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:


From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Use of Society badges by lower-level officers
To: "SCA Heralds' Mailing List" <scahrlds at listserv.aol.com>, heralds at ansteorra.org
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:30 PM


I forget which mailing list recently had a discussion about the use of
Society-level badges, specifically the marshallate badge.  I just
stumbled across <http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/1973/01/lar.htm>, the
LoAR for January 1973, which had

    East, College of Heralds. Purpure, two straight trumpets in
    saltire, bells in chief between four millrinds, all Or.

    All Kingdom Colleges of Heralds use the Arms of the Imperial
    College of Arms, just as all Earl Marshalls use the Arms of the
    Imperial Marshalate, and all Seneschals, Mistresses of Arts,
    Masters of Sciences and Medics use the appropriate Imperial Arms.

It's not all that well-written, as it refers to "Earl Marshalls"
(kingdom top-level officer), "kingdom Colleges of Heralds" (kingdom
top-level officer + warranted staffers), and "all Seneschals" &c
(officers at all levels).  But I think the intent, even then, was to
mandate use of the SCA-level badge SCA-wide.

(A better argument is one adduced before, based on the ban on
registering an officer badge when a higher level has a badge already.
In such a situation, I do not believe that the subordinate is
forbidden to use any badge, so I believe that the lower-level officer
using that upper-level badge is the only possibility.)

Danielis Lindonium
-- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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