On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Mike Wyvill <wyvillmike at hotmail.com> wrote: > Let me restate to make sure I understand this: A lozenge gules > cannot be on Azure ermines or because the primary part of the field > is a color. Or ermined azure would not be a problem in this > context. Correct? Correct. Danyll Lincoln -- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com