[ANSTHRLD] a couple questions

Alden Drake alden_drake at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jul 22 11:35:40 PDT 2009

What I find interesting, if we agree that Lord is a lesser title (as it is in the SCA), then if the heirs apparent of a barony are known prior to the B&B stepping down, the heirs could adopt the lesser title of their parents (which was done in period), resulting in John, Baron of X and John II, Lord of Y.

So any input back to the landed baron/ess quartering the arms of the barony and canton?


From: "kevinkeary at aol.com" <kevinkeary at aol.com>
To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:44:05 AM
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] a couple questions

Then I feel comfortable in contending that it IS proper for a baron to be styled as Baron of (Barony), Lord of (Canton), and for that matter, that Lord of (Barony), Baron of (Canton) would be equally Period, but less SCAdian.

Baron of (Barony), Lord of (Shire), as Thomas cites, I'm less comfortable with. The Lord of (Shire) is the Sovereign of (Kingdom), where (Shire) IS an integrated part of (Kingdom) and doesn't need to be listed separately in a string of titles.

Not that it doesn't suggest interesting schtick. In October, if they have their way, the B&B of Northkeep will step down in MORNING court, with the Crown's choices for our new B&B being invested at EVENING court. In the interim, the Crown will be Baron and Baroness of Northkeep, if I understand correctly. It would be redundant to CALL them such when reopening court for the evening, but it would be fun.

Are there applicable laws or precedents?


-----Original Message-----
From: Alden Drake <alden_drake at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2009 10:24 am
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] a couple questions

They are separate and for business purposes independantly operated, but still
tied to the sheltering barony.  You can't be a canton without a sheltering
barony - those are shires.  If the canton is ever disolved, the associated zip
codes and membership numbers revert back to the barony (I believe without
issue),20whereas shires/provinces would require the Kingdom Seneschal to
reallocate zip codes to nearby groups.


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