[ANSTHRLD] Pull the Files - Coronet Arms

Star Principal Herald star at ansteorra.org
Fri Jul 24 12:42:57 PDT 2009


Quite.

I am far more inclined to leave the registration designations as they
currently are, and revisit the issue should we find ourselves in that
situation (Queen by her own hand) again. Thus, unless it happens in
the next two years, I happily leave that issue for a future Star to
ponder!

-Emma, Star



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Jay Rudin<rudin at ev1.net> wrote:
> Alden wrote:
>
>> We could change the registration designations on the arms from King and
>> Queen to Sovereign and Consort.
>
> Excuse me for pushing for precision in lnaguage.  We could recommend that
> the Queen(s) consider whether they want to give up these arms in favor of
> the consorts.  One of the problems with using bureaucratic language "change
> the designation" is that it describes a process, not an effect.  This
> statement is the same as saying, "We could take the Queen's arms away from
> her and give them to the consort."  Once expressed in that form, the problem
> becomes clear.  These arms don't belong to us; they belong to the Queen.  We
> can make recommendations, but we cannot "change the registration
> designations" separate from the Queen(s), not the heralds, deciding to do
> it.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
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