[ANSTHRLD] conflict check: cartouche and orle

[Coblaith Muimnech]

Antonia wrote:
> I have done my own checks, but since I am new, I wanted to double  
> check myself

and later posted this URL:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/jimcouch/Heraldry?feat=directlink

She offered this description of one proposed device:
> Pean sable with "tails" Or, Sable, an orle argent (using the  
> Erminois, Or with "tails: sable)  Sable, a Cartouche argent (using  
> the ErminoisOr with "Tails" Sable)

First, a quick comment:  Where the heraldic primer on the College of  
Arms' site says, "Pean sable with 'tails' Or", what it's trying to  
convey is that "pean" means "sable with 'tails' Or".  You don't need  
to include the gloss in your blazons, just the term itself.

I'd blazon this one something like, "Sable, a cartouche and an orle  
Or, overall a semy of ermine spots counterchanged."

Style note: I'm not sure you can *have* a semy overall.  I've  
certainly never seen it in a period emblazon.  My guess is that you'd  
need to provide evidence that such an arrangement is period before  
you could register a device using it.  Consider "Pean, a cartouche  
erminois and an orle Or," <http://coblaith.net/temp/consults/ 
cartorle.jpg>.  It's close to what you've got, and closer to period  
style.

I found nothing in the ordinary with which either your initial  
proposal or my suggestion conflicts.


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