[ANSTHRLD] Court heraldry question.

[Kevinkeary at aol.com]

What if the crown is present only in the person of their baron and  
baroness?
 
 
In a message dated 6/29/2009 5:51:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
alden_drake at sbcglobal.net writes:

The  sequence I learned, which I think makes pretty good sense, is the 
first one  you list.  When I was a baronial herald, I was taught it this  way:

First, the Royal Herald opens the Crown's Court.  The  Crown will have some 
words.
Second, the Baronial Herald opens the Baronial  Court.  This court is then 
done within the Royal Court.
Third, Court  business happens (both Crown business and Baronial Business).
Fourth, the  Baronial Court is closed (Vivat Baron; vivat Baroness; vivat 
Canton (if it's a  canton event), vivat Barony.
Fifth, the Royal Court is closed (Vivat  Princeps (if there is one); vivat 
Principessa (if there is one); vivat Rex;  vivat Regina; vivat  Ansteorra).

Alden




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Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Court heraldry  question.

Greetings,

I was wondering if I could get some  clarification from the court
heralds out there.I am going over my court  heraldry notes, and
remembered that I have seen baronial courts closed in a  couple of
different ways.

The protocol I personally use for the  order of my "vivats" is this;

Baron
Baroness
Canon (where  applicable)
Barony
Prince (where applicable)
princess (where  applicable)
King
Queen
Ansteorra

I have, however, heard it  grouped togeather with all the people first,
and then all the places, and  one time I think I heard that totally
reversed, but with "Ansteorra" still  last.
What's the correct way, or is there even a singular correct  way?

Lord Ivo  Blackhawk
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