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[Jay Rudin]

Daniel replied to me:

>> You believe that if Corpora doesn't tell us how branches have to
>> march, then we should attempt to figure out what it would have said
>> if it did.

>That is not my belief.  

To-may-to, to-mah-to.

> I think that a not implausible case can be
>made that Corpora did tell us, by a reasonable reading of "alike in
>status" and "lateral transfer", with an analogy with the peerages.
>Certainly not a rip-my-arm-off-if-I'm-wrong line of reasoning by any
>means!  But I think it at least arguable and not implausible.

What is the significant difference between this and attempting to figure out what it would have said if it did?  "A not implausible case", "by a reasonable reading", "with an analogy" that is "at least arguable and not implausible" does not overrule the word of the Crown.  Only Corpora does.

When I cite a conflict between what the king wants to do and Corpora (and yes, I've occasionally done so), the quotation from Corpora clearly and unambiguously disagrees with what the king wants to do.

>If my interpretation be correct, baronies and provinces would simply
>have to be considered by a rule that takes no account of the
>difference.

If your interpretation is correct, then the following lines from Corpora are deliberately misleading: "[Kingdoms] may also impose additional rules and requirements for branches, offices, and awards within their jurisdiction, but may not reduce or waive any specified requirement contained at a higher level in the Precedence of Law."

At no point does Corpora state or imply that the equality of status at the corporate level has any effect on the re-enactment level, and in awards and ceremonial officers, it shows that differences do exist.  It states that peers must be treated as a group.  It does not say that branches "alike in status" must be treated as a group.  You conclude that you can form an analogy and decide it means something it doesn't say.  By contrast, I conclude that Corpora doesn't allow the Crown to treat peers differently and does allow branches to be treated differently.

Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin

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