[ANSTHRLD] Tree Hugger (Conflict Check)

doug bell magnus77840 at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 5 15:44:13 PDT 2010





	
	
	
	

And for a VERY recent ruling on eradicated vs normal:
[March 2010 LoAR, R-ÆTHELMEARC]
	Deryk Legard. Device. Per fess azure and vert, on an oak tree
	argent a mullet of four points gules. 
	

This device is returned for conflict with the device of Cherie Ruadh
MhicRath of Locksley, Vert, on a tree eradicated argent a cat
herisonny guardant gules and with the device of Phillip 
MhicRath
of Locksley, Vert, on a tree eradicated argent a crescent gules.
In each case, there is a 
single CD for the field. There is no
difference granted between a plain tree and a tree eradicated.
Magnus


> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:33:12 -0500
> From: tmcd at panix.com
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Tree Hugger (Conflict Check)
> 
> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010, doug bell <magnus77840 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Jayme / jpercer at gmail.com wrot:
> >> Argent, a tree proper within a bordure nebuly sable
> >
> > A tree proper has brown trunk, green leaves.
> > Most of the charge is vert.
> 
> I think that at least one Laurel precedent says that there are period
> representations with one leaf per branch, so I think I would check
> precedents for difference rulings.
> 
> > If I recall there is a CD between round trees, pines, and willows.
> > It can be looked up if we need it.
> 
> I believe there is for round tree versus pine; I'm not as certain
> about willows.
> 
> > Versus O'Connor Don
> > The following device associated with this name was registered in
> > December of 1994 (via Laurel):
> > Argent, a tree eradicated vert. Important non-SCA arms
> >
> > I will have to check if there is a CD for eradication vs a normal
> > tree.
> 
> As best I recall, there is no CD: trees couped, eradicated, or normal
> are all identical, like animal heads don't get a difference between
> couped or erased.
> 
> > Aleyd von Brandenburg
> > The following device associated with this name was registered in
> > September of 2002 (via Atenveldt):
> > Argent, a tree eradicated proper and on a bordure engrailed sable
> > five arrowheads inverted argent.
> >
> > I believe there is a CD for adding the arrowheads and one for type
> > for engrailed vs nebuly and possibly one for the eradication.
> 
> The first two CDs are certain (addition/deletion of charges on charge
> + change of type), so we don't have to worry about another.
> 
> Danihel de Lindo Colonia
> -- 
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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