[ANSTHRLD] {TH}orkell {o, }lf_ss - chevron braced with one inverted, both ensigned

[Joshua Brandl]

I am still learning... what little references i can find at the local library are.. wanting at best...

> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:57:43 -0500
> From: tmcd at panix.com
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] {TH}orkell {o, }lf_ss - chevron braced with one inverted, both ensigned
> 
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Joshua Brandl <norfildur at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > taking the idea that during my rough period ( well within the SCA
> > timeframe) i presumed that any single plane ordinary can be pierced
> > in such a manner.
> 
> It's hard to do extrapolation -- determining a pattern and deciding
> what other items fit the pattern.  In this case, we have only a signle
> period datum (assuming Papworth's is correct), and you can't
> extrapolate a curve from a single point.  All we can say from this is
> that there's one known example in England, and it had a bend piecing a
> chevron and nothing else but plain tinctures.  That doesn't justify
> any other pattern on its own.
> 
> > i then took 2 chevrons and peirced them.  then looking at line
> > treatments i found an example ( Argent, a fesse dancetty with a
> > cross formy issuing in chief gules--Arms ascribed to Reginald
> > FITZ-JOCELYN, Bp. of Bath and Wells, 1191.)  rationalizing that
> > dancetty was similar enough to a single chevron i blazoned the
> > chevron as issuing.
> 
> Again, that's extrapolating from one example. Parker mentions another
> ensigned chevron, as I recall, which gives us two points, and I'd bet
> a small amount that there are other examples of charges issuing from a
> chevron.
> 
> > now, a ermine spot can be used singularly as a charge,
> 
> The examples of ensigned that I've seen so far are a
> (demi-)fleur-de-lys and a cross.  Those are two of the most common
> charges.  An ermine spot as a charge is rare, and I've never seen
> taking part of an ermine spot.  (Except for one example, the strewn
> pattern known as "estencelly", but note that that's a known pattern,
> and one example.)
> 
> > i assumed that the spot had a "head" and "tail" the tail is pointing
> > toward the fesspoint
> 
> "Fess point" is in the middle of a shield.
> 
> I'm not sure why I didn't think to do a Google Images search before to
> confirm or refute my memory.
> <http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Templates/Fields/index.htm> has a
> "direct scan from Friar's" [Dictionary], a reputable source, of dozens
> of different styles of ermine spots.  Some don't have dots, and some
> appear to point in the opposite direction from the more usual ermine
> spot.
> 
> Danielis Lindicolinum
> -- 
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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