[ANSTHRLD] Conflict question

Emily Minier adalia.nyx at gmail.com
Tue Nov 9 13:37:01 PST 2010


WOO HOO!!!! Four is always better than 2 when counting CD's (unless you
DON'T want to be different)

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:

> Emily Minier <adalia.nyx at gmail.com> asked about
>
>
>    Vert, a rapier and a quill pen crossed in saltire and upon a chief
>    argent two larks rising vert.
>
> versus
>
>    Vert, a sword inverted and a quill pen crossed in saltire argent,
>    a bordure embattled Or.
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Kevinkeary <kevinkeary at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> The primaries aren't identical, but the differences are negligible
>> -- particular style of sword and NOT inverting it.
>>
>
> I believe that inverting a sword is an orientation change that can
> cause a CD.  So this change in orientation of at least half the
> primary charge group would therefore be a CD.
>
>
> Swapping the bordure for the chief is a CD, with or without the
>> tincture change. Adding tertiary charges is also a CD -- and these
>> are tertiaries.
>>
>
> Yup.
>
>
> Now watch someone correct me and say that the change of the
>> secondary's type and tincture are each a CD, so this is three off.
>> I haven't checked to remind myself on that.
>>
>
> Nope.  The change of the secondary's type and tincture are each a CD,
> so this is FOUR off.
>
> For charges on the field (primary, secondary, peripheral ordinary,
> overall): each separate changes that can cause a CD are separate CDs,
> except for the case where a change of position is forced by some other
> change.
>
> For charges on a charge (tertiary): all the changes to a single group,
> no matter what kind or how many, can get you no more than one CD.
>
> For the field: all the changes to a field, no matter what kind or how
> many, can get you no more than one CD, unless there are no charges at
> all, or just a peripheral ordinary.
>
> Danielis de Lindocollino
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
>
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