[ANSTHRLD] Name help: Ann of Wellborn

Pat Mullins paedrics at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 18 16:58:38 PDT 2010


Thanks for your help! I have just forwarded your previous missive to her and asked about her personna place and time. I'll pass on her response as soon as I get it... I don't think spelling changes would be any problem, especially as the variations you've sent wouldn't affect pronunciation, but I'll check.
Paedric

--- On Mon, 10/18/10, Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Name help: Ann of Wellborn
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 6:51 PM


I'd like to apologise as well for the brief nature of my previous
email. I thought I was going to have to run out the door.

I'm making an assumption (and it's a big assumption) that English is
the language of choice, since you haven't specified, and the names
both appear fairly English to me at the moment.

What is the submitter's desired time period, so that we may further
attempt to find documentation that tailors to the submitters desired
time period. That's not always completely possible, but we
try.

I checked the Ordinary/Armorial and did not appear to find any
conflicts for the name.

Is the submitter open to other spellings of <Ann> or <Wellborn>? This
will help again as we may not be able to find that specific spelling
(See R&W docs that I cited for examples)

I'm almost certain the name is registerable, like I said, hopefully
somebody can conjure up some more spellings (dated) of <Wellborn>

Jayme

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com> wrote:
> Reaney & Wilson's English Surnames gives the following spellings of
> <Wellborn> from pg 480:
>
> Welbourn, Welbourne, Welbon, Welburn, Wellborne, Wellburn.  Those are
> the header forms. (Note: Only the one example in Latin is dated, the
> rest are undated forms, Your mileage may vary. I don't have access to
> an english placenames book at the moment.)
>
> The citation reads: Ailmer de Welleburnia 1185 Templars (L). From
> Welborne (Norfolk), Welbourn (Lincs) or Welburn (NRYorks).
>
> The given name <Ann> was found in the following articles on English Names:
>
> http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/kings.html
> http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/late16.html
> http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/quedgeley.html
> http://heraldry.sca.org/names/english/parishes/parishes.html
>
> Hope this is a start. I'm sure somebody can come along with a
> placenames book and get a better dated form of <Wellborn> or an
> earlier period form of <ann>
>
> Jayme
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Pat Mullins <paedrics at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Greetings!
>> I hail from the Shire of the Shadowlands, which currently has no herald. As I am on this list I offered to help out one of our members who is in the process of trying to submit a name.
>> The name she wants to submit is:
>>
>> Ann of Wellborn
>>
>> (locative byname, Wellborn is an unincorperated community just south of College Station)
>>
>> Is there any chance this could pass? If so, could anybody help with the documentation?
>>
>> thanks for any assistance anyone might be able to give,
>> Paedric OMullan
>> Shadowlands
>>
>>
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