[ANSTHRLD] Blazon and Device help: Argent chape ploye ermine

[doug bell]

Alexander Stuart of Dunvegan
The following device associated with this name was registered in November of 1996 (via An Tir):
Per bend sinister purpure and vert, a stag's head caboshed and a sheaf of arrows argent.

This is the only thing close I found.
There should be a CD for changes to the field and one for inverting the arrows
and one for the placement of the charges (reversed from the submitted one).

Magnus

> From: Kevinkeary at aol.com
> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:48:23 -0400
> To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Blazon and Device help: Argent chape ploye ermine
> 
> Jayme's original suggestion should be good, alter the blazon to cure the  
> style problem.
>  
> Reblazon: Per chevron throughout {ploye} azure and ermine, in chief a sheaf 
>  of
> arrows inverted, and a stag's head cabossed argent.
> 
> Now the 'ploye' specifies the curvature of the per chevron field division,  
> and not a field treatment added to the top of the field. The emblazon 
> already  has the partition lines running down far enough to make this work.
>  
> This wouldn't fix conflict issues, which I have not looked for.
> 
> Kevin
>  
>  
> In a message dated 10/21/2010 10:36:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> dmage121 at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> Please  give your suggestion. This is a second attempt at a returned 
> device. The  
> original was "Azure ermine or, a stag trippant". The submitter now wants  
> four 
> major elements; ermine, sheaf of arrows, stag's head cabossed, and no  
> conflicts. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From:  Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra  - SCA, Inc." 
> <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Thu, October 21,  2010 10:26:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Blazon and Device help: Argent  chape ploye ermine
> 
> The picture  is
> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs022.snc4/33485_1541393107429_1
> 612997228_1278728_5295867_n.jpg
> 
> 
> Alasdair  wrote:
> > Also I do not believe that "in chief" is necessary on this  instance
> > either as 1) as i understand it a chap{e'} ploy{e'} cannot  be
> > charged (it it is then it will be blazoned as a chevron  throughout
> > ploy{e'}. 2) can't have argent charges on an ermine  field.
> 
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Darnell Daniels <dmage121 at yahoo.com>  wrote:
> > Would I then need to drop the sheaf and stag's head down a bit  since
> > they are not "in chief"?
> 
> We register the emblazon (the  picture), not the blazon (the words).
> We adjust the words to suit the  picture.  If it can't be blazoned
> accurately and consistently, it's  returned for not being reproducable
> and/or blazonable.
> 
> A per chevron  field, like per fess, per pale, or per bend [sinister],
> should divide the  field roughly in half.  On this depiction, the
> ermine is maybe a  third.  If you move the dividing line up to fix
> that, the charges are  likely to be in the correct positions and may
> even have to shrink a  little.
> 
> By the way, any interest in period-style armory?  This  appears
> registerable if there's no conflict, but I like to ask in case  people
> have a preference.
> 
> Danielis de Lincolia
> -- Tim McDaniel,  tmcd at panix.com
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