[ANSTHRLD] "I want a device. Now what?"

[Bob Wade]

Jayme, I'm sending you a copy of the paper I did at Ansteorra H&SS on following a submission in Ansteorra.  It's picks things up after the things that Daniel outlined, but I hope what it covers on what Commentary looks for will be of use.  Let me know if the attachment strips like it will on [ANSTHRLD]
 
Am currently sending it to people in the Central Region as they submit with plans to teach/preach it throughout the year and distribute it to other Regionals and Tressure.  If anyone else is interested, please let me know.
 
Tostig

--- On Thu, 9/9/10, Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] "I want a device. Now what?"
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 4:04 PM


Well............ I'm going to be working a 48 hour shift this weekend. I'll
see if I can't write this stuff into an article

Jayme

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, Ron (Modar) Knight <Rknight at kumc.edu> wrote:
>
>> Daniel:
>>
>>> Prompted by the question on a mailing list, I went looking for FAQ #1:
>>> "I want a name|device.  What do I do?"  Oddly, I couldn't find one at
>>> heraldry.sca.org or heraldry.ansteorra.org.  Anyone have a URL?
>>> Surely this article has been written many times before.  Maybe there's
>>> a Gazette article?
>>>
>> .
>> Eirik:
>>
>>> Modar's site has this article, "Creating a Heraldic Device",
>>> by Modar at
>>> http://www.modaruniversity.org/Newcomer-Packet-11-Heraldry.pdf.
>>> Don't know if that is specifically what you are looking for.
>>>
>> .
>> I need to re-do that article.  It's got bare-bones stuff to show
>> folks when talking with them...but it's not really a "how to do it
>> yourself" kind of guide.
>> .
>> The one article "Choosing a Name & Creating a Persona" [
>> http://www.modaruniversity.org/Names.htm ] is more of a "how to do
>> it yourself" guide but only deals with names, not devices.
>>
>
> Thank you both for the URLs.
>
> However, I don't want a "how to do it yourself" article.  I think most
> people don't want to go so deep into heraldry to do it all themselves
> and I think it's unreasonable to ask most people to do so.
>
> I want an article about
>
> - a name is ... a device is ...
>
> - registration is ...
>
> - you need a name submission at the same time as or before a device
>  submission
>
> - talk to your local herald.  If you don't have one or if he doesn't
>  respond, talk to your regional or Star: here's their contact info
>  ...
>
> - when you go into a consultation, tell them any place+time+culture
>  ideas (one or more)
>
> - for a name: you can see real period names at Saint Gabriel ... look
>  at name elements plus name construction.  your submission must have
>  period style, so it helps to see real names appropriate for your
>  places+times+cultures. also, you might get some ideas that you like
>
> - for a device, you might want to look at real period coats of arms at
>  ... your submission must have period style, so it helps to see real
>  designs appropriate for your places+times+cultures
>
> - for a device, if you're in the brainstorming stage, it can help if
>  you have one favorite metal and two favorite colors, and some notions
>  of charges.
>
> - the fridge test is ...
>
> - conflict is ...  (not telling them all the conflict rules and how to
>  use the Ordinary and Armorial and pattern search and all that --
>  just defining what it means and saying that a more experienced
>  herald should be able to conflict-check items.  briefly explain a
>  little bit about changes that can clear conflicts.)  don't
>  complicate your desires until you get a conflict
>
> - a letter of permission is ...
>
> - your consulting heralds should help you fill out the forms and check
>  for conflict and all that
>
> Daniel de Linccolne
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Joseph M. Percer, AAS, LP
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