[ANSTHRLD] Heirs to Principalities--Title Question

Brian O'hUilliam brianoftheloch at gmail.com
Sun Apr 3 18:36:35 PDT 2011

  I have heard of Tanist and Tanista/Ban-Tanist being used fairly often,
however, Midrealm also uses that to signify the Crown Prince and Princess in
addition to the usual P&P title.
  I have not heard of them using "Lord/Lady <insert Principality name
here>." Rather I often hear of "Lord/Lady <insert signifier of the
Principality>."  Oertha (Alaska) uses Lord/Lady Borealis, Cynagua uses
Lord/Lady of the Swan (their arms include a large black swan).  Of course
these are both West Principalities and that could just be a Western thing.
  Also, for some Principalities it may not be an issue as some invest the
new P&P the day of the Coronet list.

In Service,
Brian O'hUilliam

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:58 PM, HerrDetlef <herrdetlef at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is one that we don't mess with much here in Ansteorra, but for anyone
> who travels out of kingdom...
> What is the SCA custom for titles and styles for heirs to principalities?
> To draw on mundane precedent: the heirs to the princpality of Liechtenstein
> are titled "Hereditary Prince" and "Hereditary Princess" ("Erbprinz" and
> "Erbprinzessin"), and they are styled "Serene Highness" in the same way
> that
> the Prince and Princess are.
> But if memory serves, I have heard of some principalities calling their
> heirs "Tanist" and "Tanista," while some others call theirs "Lord" and
> "Lady" of the principality in question. And I have no clue about style (for
> that matter, I'm not sure if even the Princes and Princesses are styled
> "Serene Highness").
> I'm working on a chart of titles and styles that go with various ranks, and
> I want to be accurate.
> Yours in these Current Middle Ages,
> Detlef von Marburg
> Tir Medóin Pursuivant
> --
> Hwæt! We Gardena         in geardagum,
> þeodcyninga,         þrym gefrunon,
> hu ða æþelingas         ellen fremedon.
> Oft Scyld Scefing         sceaþena þreatum,
> monegum mægþum,         meodosetla ofteah,
> egsode eorlas.         Syððan ærest wearð
> feasceaft funden,         he þæs frofre gebad,
> weox under wolcnum,         weorðmyndum þah,
> oðþæt him æghwylc         þara ymbsittendra
> ofer hronrade         hyran scolde,
> gomban gyldan.         þæt wæs god cyning!
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