[ANSTHRLD] Foamy Beer mug

[Kevinkeary at aol.com]

Gaining extra CDs will help with conflict, it won't help with poor  
contrast. However, if the foam is of equal visual impact to the tankard,  basically 
bubbling up over half the height of the tankard and sliding down the  side 
as well, then the charge might be ruled 'half light and half dark', and be  
considered neutral for contrast.
 
Kevin
 
 
In a message dated 4/24/2011 10:22:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jpercer at gmail.com writes:

You  couldn't get a CD for type against a "doubly-curved drinking
horn?" I'd say  that a tankard and a doubly-curved drinking horn ought
to be clearly  visually different, maybe not X2 different but worth at
least a CD... Can  you cite precedent for the lack of CD in that case?

Also the submitter  could consider making the bordure complex, to gain
a 2nd CD to get away  from the poor-contrast problem of a 'proper' cup.

Andrewe

On  Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com>  wrote:
> Consider "Vert, a tankard Or foamed argent within a bordure Or"  versus 
...
>
> ... "Per bend sinister sable and azure, a chalice  and a bordure Or."  
(Ursula the Saxon, Device, May 1996)  I se 1 CD  for the change of tincture to 
the field but nothing for the type of cup  or foam.  Versus a "wooden 
tankard proper" I see a 2nd CD for change of  tincture to the cup.
>
> ... "Vert, a goblet Or between three  escallops inverted argent all 
within a bordure Or." (Elizabeta da Porta,  Device, Mar 2010)  I see 1 CD for the 
removal of the escallops but  nothing for the type of cup or foam.  Versus 
a "wooden tankard proper" I  see a 2nd CD for change of tincture to the cup.
>
> ... "Vert, a  doubly-curved drinking horn argent, garnished, within a 
bordure Or." (Anna  Georgievna of Kiev, Device, May 1987)  I see 1 CD for the 
change of  tincture to the cup but nothing for the type of cup or foam.  
Versus  a "wooden tankard proper" doesn't help.
>
> Sorry,
>  Tostig
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Crandall  <crandalltwo-scalists at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From:  Crandall <crandalltwo-scalists at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re:  [ANSTHRLD] Foamy Beer mug
> To: " Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc.Heralds  List" 
<heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Sunday, April 24,  2011, 6:51 PM
>
>
> Tankards and other such things are  considered "cups" in the OANDA.
>
> Meadhbh ni Dhubhthaigh
>  The following badge associated with this name was registered in April of 
2010  (via Atenveldt):
> Sable, a tankard Or foamed argent between in chief  five gouts in chevron 
Or.
> Isengau, Shire of
> The following  device associated with this name was registered in 
February of 2002 (via  Drachenwald):
> Sable, a tankard Or foamed argent within a laurel wreath  within a 
bordure embattled Or.
>
> These are quick checks, not to  imply either conflict or non-conflict.
>
> Crandall, Olde  Phart
>
> "In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but  verily, also, one 
should afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are  comfortably, 
contentedly, even happily wrong." -John Kenneth  Galbraith
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Amanda Baucum  <kyrogue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Amanda Baucum  <kyrogue at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check and  Advice
>> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."  
<heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011,  6:15 PM
>> The submitter wishes to register:
>>
>>  Vert, a wooden tankard proper foamed argent within a
>> bordure  or
>>
>> I need to know first if the proper will conflict  with the
>> field.  If not can
>> I get help conflict  checking?
>>
>> If it does create a problem the alternate  is:
>>
>> Vert, a tankard or foamed argent within a bordure  or
>>
>> And this will still need help conflict checking  (I'm not
>> 100% what all the
>> terms for cups I'll have to  be looking at)
>>
>> Thanks for any help and for your  time!
>>
>> ~Alys Langton
>> Seawinds  Herald
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