[ANSTHRLD] Device attempt 2
Etienne de St. Amaranth
st.amaranth at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 21 11:50:17 PDT 2011
Yes. I want to clarify that bendlets are not just lines. The are thick lines. Basically about one-third the thickness of a normal bend.
These would be straight, or plain line, and not engrailed. Or you could have a bend that is engrailed.
Respectfully,
Sent from my iPhone,
Etienne
On Apr 21, 2011, at 1:37 PM, charles armitage <charlesarmitage at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I see!
>
> So if I went with:
>
> Sable, two bendlets argent and overall a phoenix proper.
>
> This is a black field with two white lines running from upper left to lower
> right and a phoenix in full color in the center overtop the lines, yes?Does it
> matter what those lines look like? in the engrailed form it looks sort of wavy,
> would this description only allow them to be straight lines?
> Ld Kylan Ulfgierrson mka Charles
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> half of you half as well as you deserve."
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> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Device attempt 2
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> Kylan,
>
> Per bend means that you have a dividing line going diagonally from the upper
> left (as you look it) to the lower right (also called from dexter chief to
> sinister base). On either side of the dividing line you have two different
> tinctures. In what you described below, you just have a sable field (black
> background).
>
> Items with complex lines of divisions or edges cannot be voided. But if you did
> void a bend you would have two lines in the color of the bend. If you just made
> a thin bend, that is a bendlet and bendlets and pallets and chevronelles don't
> appear singly in medieval armory.
>
> If you drop the engrailed, you could try either of the following (which I have
> not conflict checked):
>
> Sable, two bendlets argent and overall a phoenix proper. (I think a default
> Phoenix is rising so you would not need to blazon that.)
>
> Sable, a bend engrailed to chief argent and overall a Phoenix proper. (That
> would get you the upper engrailed edge but would be a full bend and not just a
> line.)
>
> Respectfully,
> Sent from my iPhone,
>
> Etienne
>
> On Apr 21, 2011, at 1:05 PM, charles armitage <charlesarmitage at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't know how you guys do this lol but here we go...
>>
>> I've been doing some thinking and looking and had a thought but again couldn't
>
>> really find anything that said if it can be done...
>>
>> Sable, per bend voided engrailed argent a Phoenix rising from flame proper
>> 1. Can you void a per bend engrailed
>>
>> (Which I would assume would be a black shield with a jagged white/silver line
>> from top left to bottom right.)
>>
>> 2. When you say proper this means the natural colors the charge would have, so
>
>> if I say a phoenix proper would that allow me to place it centered over top of
>
>> the per bend, even though there will be yellow and red in the phoenix's natural
>>
>> coloring?
>> Ld Kylan Ulfgierrson mka Charles
>> "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than
>> half of you half as well as you deserve."
>>
>>
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>> From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
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>> Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 10:29:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Kate Middleton gets coat of arms
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>> On Thu, 21 Apr 2011, Kevinkeary at aol.com <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org> wrote:
>>> My bet is that Laurel's next letter, or at most the one after, will
>>> include these arms as 'important non-SCA arms', right alongside the
>>> arms of other royals, British or not.
>>
>> I'll take that bet. A Name Pattern Search at
>> http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_np.cgi does not show Bowes, Spencer, or
>> Ferguson, the three maiden names of ladies recently marrying into The
>> Firm that I know off the top of my head.
>>
>> Laurel might or might not rule that they're protected, but I suspect
>> that they would not thereby make it into the Armorial.
>>
>> Danielis Lindocolina
>> -- Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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