[ANSTHRLD] a question about supporters on achievements

Duncan Hepburn duncan at stormypetrel.org
Tue Jun 14 09:47:31 PDT 2011


Thanks for clearing that up for me Serena... and for the education on
my situation.

~DH

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Diane Rudin <serena1570 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Other way around -- dexter supporter is to the right of the shield from the POV
> of the person holding the shield, not the observer of the shield. Same as the
> dexter side of the shield is the right side of the shield from the POV of the
> person holding the shield.  In plainer English, in heraldry your right is your
> left and your left is your right. So the dexter supporter is the one to the
> *left* side of the shield as you look at it.
>
> Unfortunately, I have the painful duty of pointing out that you aren't entitled
> to register supporters yet, since you don't have a noble title separate from the
> BiF. Registering personal supporters prior to successful completion of your
> tenure as Steppes B&B is anticipating the future acquisition of the CB.  The CB
> for retiring BiF's who were not previously CB's is granted at the pleasure of
> the Crown, and while we all hope that nothing goes terribly wrong, past history
> has taught us to take nothing for granted (literally) in this area. It would be
> an awful mess to register supporters now and then have them revoked if something
> unanticipated happened. We don't register supporters & coronet to first-time
> Crowns who have not yet completed their reigns either, and for the same reason.
>
> Robin, can you explain this more clearly, since You Were There when they were
> coming up with these rules?
>
> (And why didn't y'all write all of this down somewhere back then?)
>
> --Serena, Blanc Gryffon
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Duncan Hepburn <duncan at stormypetrel.org>
>> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc."
>><heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> Sent: Tue, June 14, 2011 11:07:32 AM
>> Subject: [ANSTHRLD] a question about supporters on achievements
>>
>> I was looking at the ACoH Achievement Registration Form (yes, I'm
>> finally  getting around to registering mine) and I had a question about
>> the position  of the supporters. When You are listing the dexter
>> supporter, is that to the  right of the shield as you look at it?
>>
>> My brain isn't aligned for  heraldish thinking this morning  obviously.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Duncan
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