[ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check - Purpure Dragon

[Kevinkeary]

OK, I'll look those precedents up later.

I had understood that to be 'sustained', the arrow inverted would have to be of 'equal visual weight' to the dragons segreant. I have not seen the emblazon. And I understood, as I said, that one of three charges was rounded up to half the group. I was unaware that the position IN the group was significant, other than symmetry is less likely to be considered a 'step from period practice', besides being less elegant and usually uglier.

I'm also aware that CD's aren't always additive. The rules for WHEN they are seem a tad arbitrary to me, but maybe ambiguous is a more fair characterization, and maybe that ambiguity would be cleared by memorizing more precedents.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: doug bell <magnus77840 at hotmail.com>
To: heralds at lists.ansteorra.org
Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 11:02 am
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check - Purpure Dragon



> I know it's moot, because Tostig is correct about the first conflict and 
aniel is correct about the third.
Kevin
A point of conflict is never moot. The second item might have been the only 
onflict or might conflict with a new
esign. It can't be left unresolved.
> Are you saying that "Argent, two dragons combattant purpure sustaining between 
hem an arrow inverted vert" 
onflicts with BOTH "Argent, a dragon purpure" AND "Argent, an arrow inverted 
ert"?
There is a complex set of precedents on when you get a CD for 1 change to the 
ottom
f 3 charges, 2 changes to the bottommost of 4 charges, and sustained co-primary 
harges.
As I understand it two dragons armory would only get 1 CD from purple dragon for 
hange of number 
rom 3 to 1 of the primary charge group. It doesn't get any for tincture since 
he change is far less than 
alf the primary group. It gets nothing for type since it doesn't change the 
ype of at least half the
rimary group and it doesn't fit the exceptions under the so called Sheridan 
recedents.
I don't see a conflict with the arrow vert device since there is a difference in 
umber, half
he type, and half the tincture.
Magnus
ho knows the precedent name isn't spelled that way but no one can
ronounce the Gaelic version and it is a complex set of rules
hat really annoy Tostig
                     
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