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[Kathleen O'Brien]

So, given this discussion thread, is this something we need to request a 
blazon change for so that the direction of the knife is accurately 
reproduced each time?

Mari


On 4/26/2012 3:15 PM, Alasdair MacEogan wrote:
> That has generally been a rule of thumb, but as far as I can find there
> is nothing specifying it specifically. Basically if it does not have a
> specified default orientation then it needs to be blazoned. The Glossary
> of terms defines default postures for specific types of charges, not
> groups (ie all tools).
>
> There is a default orientation for knife, it says see sword. Sword
> default is point up. There really is nothing specifying that different
> types of the same charge type will have different orientations. So the
> question is would a calligraphy knife be treated differently than other
> knives. I can find no specific ruling stating that the default
> orientation of a knife is different based upon its purpose.
>
> I went to look in OSCAR for the word knife and came across 6 submissions
> with the word knife in them. One is a kindjal knife which was point up
> (as expected since it is a weapon I believe). 4 are half-moon knives
> which are tools so I would class them with the calligrapher's knife and
> it was also point up. Finally there actually is one calligraphy knife
> submitted through an-tir in 2009. The device has a per bend field so the
> knife is also in per bend, but the blade is at the chief side of the knife.
>
> I would say that unless someone can point me to some sort of precedent
> saying that not all knives are equal in the eyes of blazon for
> orientaiton then by default all knives should follow the same
> orientation. Barring that every knife would be need to be listed in the
> glossary of term with their default orientation or be required to be
> specifically blazoned.
>
> Just my quick 2 cents.
> Alasdair
>
> On 4/26/2012 2:51 PM, Diane Rudin wrote:
>> My vague memory of the rule on tools (swords, pens, etc.) is that they
>> default to the "use" orientation -- in other words, swords default to
>> point-up because that's the direction in which the point is usually
>> held when using them, whereas pens are point-down because that's the
>> direction in which they're used. Therefore, unlike an ordinary knife,
>> which would be point-up by default, a calligrapher's knife would
>> default to point-down because that's the direction in which the knife
>> is used. (Trust me, downward IS the direction in which the knife is
>> used to cut quills.)
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> --Serena
>>
>
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