[ANSTHRLD] Phrasing: battled embattled + conflict check

Jillian Birtciel saintesun at gmail.com
Sun Jun 3 06:51:45 PDT 2012


So, no CD for bretessed, but yes difference from indented...the most
obvious conflict I see is then:

   - Christina O'Cleary<http://oanda.sca.org:80/oanda_name.cgi?p=Christina%20O%27Cleary>
      - The following device associated with this name was registered in
      August of 2011 (via
Caid)<http://oanda.sca.org:80/oanda_date.cgi?y1=2011&m1=August&y2=2011&m2=August&kC=checked>
      :
      *Vert <http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=vert>,
on<http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=on>a
      pale <http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=pale> bretessed
Or<http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=Or>three elm leaves
      vert <http://oanda.sca.org:80/glossary.cgi?p=vert>.*



One CD for the elm leaves v. the paw print, but that's all, if I'm counting
correctly?  That is the only one I see, however.

SENA Appendix M: Some Resources for Conflict Checking has some useful
> information.
>
> Complex lines of division that conflict:
> Broadly, complex lines of division fall into several groups.  In general,
> there is a DC between variants that belong to different groups.  There is
> in general a DC between any two lines in the "jagged" group; as research
> has proved that these lines were common and were considered distinct by
> period heralds unlike the situation for the "square" group and the "wavy"
> group.  In addition, there is in general a DC between any two lines in the
> "other" group, as it is a catch-all with no relationship between them.
>  Those listed as "variants of straight line" also conflict with a straight
> line.
> Straight line variants: plain, ployé, enarched,
> Square: embattled, dovetailed, bretessed, embattled counterembattled,
> raguly, denticulada
> Wavy: Wavy, nebuly, urdy
> Long: Rayonny
> Jagged: indented, engrailed, invected, dancetty, lozengy
> Other: bevilled, potenty, flory-counterflory, indented fleury at the
> points, left step/right step, rompu, triangular
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> So I believe bretessed grady will conflict with urdy and the Square group.
> If you give me the suspected conflict I can check it with more certainty.
>
> Magnus
>
>
> > Following up on this question with a
> > proposed blazon and possible conflict
> > check:
> >
> > Vert on a pale embattled grady brettessed Or a paw print
> > sable.
> >
> >
> > Is there a CD between this complex line and brettessed or
> > indented? (Yes,
> > it looks like the example HE Tostig provided in an earlier
> > response.)  If
> > not, I see definite conflict in several examples.
>
>
>
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